Forum Home Forum Home > Progressive Music Lounges > Prog Polls
  New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - Here's a new poll about Kansas and Bill Bruford
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login

Here's a new poll about Kansas and Bill Bruford

 Post Reply Post Reply Page  12>
Poll Question: If Bill Bruford had replaced Phil Ehart, would you like Kansas more?
Poll Choice Votes Poll Statistics
6 [17.14%]
29 [82.86%]
You can not vote in this poll

Author
Message
Epignosis View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Eclectic Prog Team

Joined: December 30 2007
Location: Raeford, NC
Status: Offline
Points: 31782
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Epignosis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: Here's a new poll about Kansas and Bill Bruford
    Posted: May 12 2011 at 20:06
Vote, but say why or why not.


Edited by Epignosis - May 12 2011 at 20:10
Back to Top
Andy Webb View Drop Down
Forum & Site Admin Group
Forum & Site Admin Group
Avatar
Site and Forum Admin

Joined: June 04 2010
Location: Terria
Status: Offline
Points: 12475
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Andy Webb Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 12 2011 at 20:07
No, because this isn't a prog poll Wink
Formerly Andyman1125

Back to Top
Epignosis View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Eclectic Prog Team

Joined: December 30 2007
Location: Raeford, NC
Status: Offline
Points: 31782
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Epignosis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 12 2011 at 20:10
Originally posted by Andyman1125 Andyman1125 wrote:

No, because this isn't a prog poll Wink


Don't Gandalff me.

Why not?
Back to Top
Andy Webb View Drop Down
Forum & Site Admin Group
Forum & Site Admin Group
Avatar
Site and Forum Admin

Joined: June 04 2010
Location: Terria
Status: Offline
Points: 12475
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Andy Webb Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 12 2011 at 20:17
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by Andyman1125 Andyman1125 wrote:

No, because this isn't a prog poll Wink


Don't Gandalff me.

Why not?

LOL I can't help but notice there are no "prog" related questions or choices in this poll Tongue
Unless you take Prog to mean "progressive" as in "progress" and this is a "progression" from the 3.4 million "prog polls" Gandalff posts. So maybe it is a "prog" poll LOL
Formerly Andyman1125

Back to Top
johnobvious View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: May 11 2006
Location: Nebraska
Status: Offline
Points: 1278
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote johnobvious Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 12 2011 at 21:26
No. Is there something wrong with Ehart's drumming that I don't know about?
Biggles was in rehab last Saturday
Back to Top
The Monodrone View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: March 21 2010
Location: Indiana, USA
Status: Offline
Points: 4484
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote The Monodrone Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 12 2011 at 21:36
My opinion wouldn't change; I don't have a problem with Kansas' drumming, but rather their compositions.
    
Back to Top
Guests View Drop Down
Forum Guest Group
Forum Guest Group
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 12 2011 at 22:44
Since it didn't work out for Genesis, I'm not sure Kansas would have benefitted from his contributions either.  I read that Bruford loves to improvise onstage, so keeping to the straight and narrow in a composition wouldn't suit him.  That is why he stuck with King Crimson. 
Back to Top
Wanorak View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: December 09 2006
Location: Canada
Status: Offline
Points: 3110
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Wanorak Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 12 2011 at 23:50
No, there is absolutely nothing wrong with Phil Ehart's drummer. In my opinion he is one of the most underrated drummers in music.
A GREAT YEAR FOR PROG!!!
Back to Top
Wanorak View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: December 09 2006
Location: Canada
Status: Offline
Points: 3110
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Wanorak Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 12 2011 at 23:51
Lol DRUMMING sorry first day with the new typing fingers lol
A GREAT YEAR FOR PROG!!!
Back to Top
Lark the Starless View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: October 15 2009
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Status: Offline
Points: 1889
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Lark the Starless Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 13 2011 at 00:01
No. I don't think Bruford's style fits at all with Kansas.
Back to Top
Logan View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Forum Moderator

Joined: April 05 2006
Location: Utopia
Status: Offline
Points: 12244
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 13 2011 at 00:15
Dunno, I wouldn't expect so, but I do think I'd like Kansas more if Christian Vander had replaced Eh..., erm, that drummer from Kansas. Dust in the Wind in Kobaian would be awesome.

Edited by Logan - May 13 2011 at 00:18
Back to Top
Triceratopsoil View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: April 03 2010
Location: Deadmonton
Status: Offline
Points: 17423
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Triceratopsoil Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 13 2011 at 01:14
If the members of Kansas were replaced by the members of KC, maybe
Back to Top
someone_else View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar
VIP Member

Joined: May 02 2008
Location: The Castoreum
Status: Offline
Points: 13744
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote someone_else Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 13 2011 at 04:19
No, because I don't pay too much attention to the drumming. And I think that Lark the Starless is right.
Back to Top
Icarium View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar
VIP Member

Joined: March 21 2008
Location: Tigerstaden
Status: Offline
Points: 24239
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Icarium Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 13 2011 at 04:32
I focus most on drumming, then on bass and then I trick my brain to follow both keybord and guitar, and then I splitt my brain in 4 branches one for drum one for bass one for guitar and one for keybord, then i bind them together in one coheseve sound, I then listen to all sounds in four different layers I have even trained a skill to close of one instrument to focus on others, then I also can get a full pictrue of all the instruments silmuntainiously

Edited by aginor - May 13 2011 at 04:34
Acting on your best behaviour

Turn your back on mother nature

Everybody wants to rule the world

Back to Top
Slartibartfast View Drop Down
Prog Reviewer
Prog Reviewer
Avatar

Joined: April 29 2006
Location: Atlantais
Status: Offline
Points: 27310
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Slartibartfast Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 13 2011 at 06:48
Maybe.  I think Ehart is to Kansas what Squire is to Yes.  But considering Bill went from Yes to King Crimson, did a live stint with Genesis, and then his own band,  I'm sure he'd be up to the task. So no vote from me since you didn't make maybe an option. Tongue


Edited by Slartibartfast - May 13 2011 at 06:50
Back to Top
Icarium View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar
VIP Member

Joined: March 21 2008
Location: Tigerstaden
Status: Offline
Points: 24239
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Icarium Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 13 2011 at 08:02
he was also in UK
Acting on your best behaviour

Turn your back on mother nature

Everybody wants to rule the world

Back to Top
Epignosis View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Eclectic Prog Team

Joined: December 30 2007
Location: Raeford, NC
Status: Offline
Points: 31782
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Epignosis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 13 2011 at 08:10
I promise I wasn't drunk when I made this poll.  Tongue

I was listening to Yes and King Crimson after Kansas and I came to the conclusion that Phil Ehart's drumming is the "opposite," as it were, of Bill Bruford's.

Whereas Bruford is kind of loose with his snare, his rhythms, and even his sound (not a criticism at all), Ehart is far tighter.  While Ehart is the rhythmic backbone of Kansas, Bruford seems to play around the other musicians in whatever band he is in.

I don't know if that makes any sense- it was just an observation I've been having over the past several days.
Back to Top
Icarium View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar
VIP Member

Joined: March 21 2008
Location: Tigerstaden
Status: Offline
Points: 24239
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Icarium Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 13 2011 at 08:19
I often think of John Weathers as the opesitte of Bill Bruford but Ehart is also a good contender
 
yes i often thought Phil Ehart are binding the Kansas sound together much like a piece of glue,
 
just listen to the incanly fast rock groove on the GG song Way of Life, sound like standard rock drum groove, only its much faster and very pre-on beat
 
 sounds like a AC/DC drum groove only much tighter and faster
 
Acting on your best behaviour

Turn your back on mother nature

Everybody wants to rule the world

Back to Top
friso View Drop Down
Prog Reviewer
Prog Reviewer
Avatar

Joined: October 24 2007
Location: Netherlands
Status: Offline
Points: 1848
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote friso Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 13 2011 at 10:36
cheese remains cheese
Back to Top
Prog Geo View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: November 09 2010
Location: Athens (Greece)
Status: Offline
Points: 2313
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Prog Geo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 13 2011 at 10:56
Νο! For me the drummers don't change the style of a band. Mostly I mean musically.
Mikael Akerfeldt for fans of Opeth who don't like his growls (and generally the growls): If they don't like it then they are pussies.

Extreme prog metal rules!!!
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  12>
  Share Topic   

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Forum Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 11.01
Copyright ©2001-2014 Web Wiz Ltd.

This page was generated in 0.094 seconds.