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Poll Question: Which band do you like better?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 16 2013 at 21:56
Originally posted by HolyMoly HolyMoly wrote:

Actually, the band is called Spirit and the song is called Taurus, in case that hasn't been settled.
So I wasn't hallucinating.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 16 2013 at 21:57
Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

to me that's their problem and why I don't really like them

they'd gotten too big to let the obvious poaching, or in some cases simply un-crediting, go unnoticed
It's a fair criticism

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 16 2013 at 21:58
Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

Originally posted by HolyMoly HolyMoly wrote:

Actually, the band is called Spirit and the song is called Taurus, in case that hasn't been settled.
So I wasn't hallucinating.
Not that I'm aware of, no.  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 16 2013 at 21:59
Rush is still superior by so many standards for me. They're the reason i'm on this forum, becoming a more serious drummer, and just have a passion for music in general. 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 16 2013 at 22:00
Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

Rush is still superior by so many standards for me. They're the reason i'm on this forum, becoming a more serious drummer, and just have a passion for music in general. 




I like Rush way more but in all reality it's in the eye of the beholder
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 16 2013 at 22:02
Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

Originally posted by HolyMoly HolyMoly wrote:

Actually, the band is called Spirit and the song is called Taurus, in case that hasn't been settled.
So I wasn't hallucinating.


I f***** upLOLLOL but you know what I meant
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 16 2013 at 22:13
^ Monica: Joey, we always know what you mean.
Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

Rush is still superior by so many standards for me. They're the reason i'm on this forum, becoming a more serious drummer, and just have a passion for music in general.
I like Rush way more but in all reality it's in the Eye of the Beholder.
Off the topic: That's perhaps the only track I like from that Metallica album.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 16 2013 at 22:33
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

I have little doubt up about half of Zep's material was influenced by or even taken from other artists, I hear bits from other sources all the time in their stuff that no one has even noticed.   Page and Jones were studio musicians and made a living playing other people's music for years.  

But the thing is, I hear lifts in Pink Floyd's music too (often from smaller British bands of the 60s).   Few would disagree, including me, that Floyd were one of the most original acts in rock but that doesn't mean they were immune from influence or even borrowing something.   Many artists are guilty of this.   Zeppelin's problem was aggravated by several things;  they'd gotten too big to let the obvious poaching, or in some cases simply un-crediting, go unnoticed.   Also they didn't well conceal their theft like others did--  the best way to steal music is to make the song your own enough so that no one notices.   The Beatles did it well.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2013 at 00:57
Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

^ Monica: Joey, we always know what you mean.
Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

Rush is still superior by so many standards for me. They're the reason i'm on this forum, becoming a more serious drummer, and just have a passion for music in general.
I like Rush way more but in all reality it's in the Eye of the Beholder.
Off the topic: That's perhaps the only track I like from that Metallica album.


On the contrary I find other songs on that album better for example The Frayed Ends of Sanity and One(of course) but you're entitled tooWink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2013 at 00:59
Actually, that is an Oscar Wilde quote and it goes: "Talent borrows, genius steals."

As for the Stairway vs. Taurus thing: So the chord sequences in the beginning are similar. Big deal. That doesn't make "Stairway to Heaven" any less of a great song. I agree that not crediting the old blues masters on their first album was very bad judgment on their part, but in this case I would chalk it up to subconscious inspiration.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2013 at 01:15
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2013 at 07:20
Originally posted by HarbouringTheSoul HarbouringTheSoul wrote:

Actually, that is an Oscar Wilde quote and it goes: "Talent borrows, genius steals."

As for the Stairway vs. Taurus thing: So the chord sequences in the beginning are similar. Big deal. That doesn't make "Stairway to Heaven" any less of a great song. I agree that not crediting the old blues masters on their first album was very bad judgment on their part, but in this case I would chalk it up to subconscious inspiration.
By the way, Led Zeppelin opened for Spirit on their first US tour in 1969, so that tightens the possible connection between the two songs.  I totally agree (as I posted earlier) that the overall similarity between the two songs is minor at best, though.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 05 2013 at 20:52
Rush, out of a bias toward Prog, but with all due respect to Zeppelin.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 01 2013 at 07:12
LED ZEPPELIN, the best hard rock band ever!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 23 2016 at 10:58
Led Zeppelin obviously and objectively, although Rush is one of the best rock bands and in my top 5 favorites.
If you compare Rush most popular record Moving Pictures with Led Zeppelin most popular Led Zeppelin IV, the other one wins by a long shot, and any of the first 4 LZ albums is an easy winner to Moving Pictures. 
If you compare Rush discography from the album Fly by Night to Signals with LZ first 6 albums that is much closer. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 23 2016 at 11:49
I don't think Led Zeppelin has aged as well as Rush has. Don't get me wrong, I love them...but I think Rush may just edge them out in my opinion.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 23 2016 at 16:07
Two iconic bands.....no doubt about it.
Zeppelin for me......in '69 I graduated from high school, met my future wife,  started college , and first heard Led Zep's first album. There's no going back.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 23 2016 at 16:34
Even thru Zep ripped off a lot of songs including Stairway I voted for them
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 23 2016 at 18:45
^ Least of all, Stairway.  

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 23 2016 at 18:52
^Really, fandom again..............
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