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Poll Question: Who is your favourite?
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    Posted: June 07 2011 at 19:43
Here's a list of drummers who often cross between progressive and fusion and back again.

You must choose your favourite and why.

I'm stuck between Bruford,Cobham and Wyatt Confused


Edited by mrcozdude - June 07 2011 at 20:01
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Progosopher Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 07 2011 at 19:51
From the list, Cobham.  He's powerful, funky, sets good grooves in complex time signatures, and drives the rest of a band like a Mack truck hauling down from the summit of I-80 at 120 mph without losing control.  From off the list, Airto Moreira who sounds like four drummers and percussionists simultaneously.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote mrcozdude Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 07 2011 at 19:53
Originally posted by Progosopher

From the list, Cobham.  He's powerful, funky, sets good grooves in complex time signatures, and drives the rest of a band like a Mack truck hauling down from the summit of I-80 at 120 mph without losing control.  From off the list, Airto Moreira who sounds like four drummers and percussionists simultaneously.


I was going to put Airto Moreira on the list but than I thought I would have to add (late) Tony Williams and all of the other fusion guys and the list wouldnt end.
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I love the Earthworks album, even though there isn't a lot of focus on the drumming, I'm going for Bruford, does great in Yes and Crimson.




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Bruford ! My favourite drummer of all time
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from the list, John Marshall-love his work with Nucleus, Soft Machine, and later with Charlie Mariano-complex and creative

not on the list, and under-rated-Joe Koinzer from Brainstorm, Enrico Grosso from Dedalus, and Peter Giger from Dzyan and Curt Cress from Passport-these guys are better in prog/fusion drumming than anybody on the list-all masters at this type of drumming
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No contest for me:




I don't see anyone matching his technicality or musicality - no one.


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 Vote for Christian Vander who is a very good jazz drummer.  



Nice to see Lenny White listed.  Earlier today I was playing Venusian Summer and The Adventures of Astral Pirates.  Somehow I'm bigger on those albums than his drumming on them, though.  And I'm a big Wyatt fan, but not so much for his drumming, though I do think he was very good (and have been very impressed).


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Wyatt makes me hot and bothered.
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I chose Bill Bruford because of his way he could combine Rock and Jazz so smoothly in a way you wouldn't even tell. His work with Yes, King Crimson and Earthworks are always considered some of the best drum performances ever made and i truly agree with that. He was a true original in how he played and did become a strict Jazz drummer after a while.  
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Triceratopsoil Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 07 2011 at 21:35
I think you mean "jazz drummers who happen to be in prog bands," and Vander.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote richardh Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 08 2011 at 01:40
On the list - Bruford
Not on the list - Jon Hiseman
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Post Options Post Options   Quote King Crimson776 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 08 2011 at 02:15
Bruford is winning by such a long shot that I'll give the vote to Gavin Harrison. Amazing style, he turns the drums into a melodic line of its own in PT's music. A nod to Billy Cobham too for some of the most powerful drumming out there.
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I gave my vote to Cobham - but essentially he is a Jazz drummer.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote chopper Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 08 2011 at 06:20
Yes, Billy Cobham is a jazz drummer without doubt. When did he ever play prog?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote dr prog Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 08 2011 at 06:48
Brufords drumming was at it's jazziest in the 60s and early 70s with Yes. Once he left he became more of a classically styled drumer.
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Originally posted by dr prog

Brufords drumming was at it's jazziest in the 60s and early 70s with Yes. Once he left he became more of a classically styled drumer.
 
You've not heard any of his albums with Patrick Moraz or Earthworks then? Or his solo albums and some King Crimson stuff for that matter.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote harmonium.ro Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 08 2011 at 08:22
Not sure what "classically styled drummer", classical music doesn't have drummers.

Voted for Vander who wins this for me by a large margin. Honorary mention for Wyatt.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote irrelevant Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 08 2011 at 09:42
I'll give a vote to Chester Thompson since Bill Bruford is way out in front. 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Prog Geo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 08 2011 at 09:51
Gavin Harrison!

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