Prog drummers who would prefer to be Jazz drummers

^Liebezeit started out as a jazz musician, for then to convert to whatever you wanna call Can´s music, much to the German jazz scene´s disappointment. 

I would vote for Ginger Baker, but he is not here. And yes he was not a true,true Prog drummer but he had a stint in Hawkwind, so he counts.

himtroy wrote: Well all good drummers are jazz drummers...so I can't answer this.  A "rock drummer" to me is the incredibly generic sounding drummers in 80s and onward rock, all the good "rock drummers" we're without a doubt jazz based.  Except maybe Vander and his crazy bacground

What about someone like Atomic Rooster's Paul Hammond, who was definitely not jazz based at all, but a brilliant drummer who could only be called a rock drummer, and was making waves way back in the early seventies?

Well all good drummers are jazz drummers...so I can't answer this.  A "rock drummer" to me is the incredibly generic sounding drummers in 80s and onward rock, all the good "rock drummers" we're without a doubt jazz based.  Except maybe Vander and his crazy bacground

I'm voting for Michael Giles, because he recently sent me a Facebook friend-request

Edited by Stool Man - June 10 2011 at 06:20

1.Billy Cobham
2.Lenny White
3.Chester Thompson

B.B.

Another prog drummer who started as a jazz drummer and played jazz for several years before switching to rock is Mani Neumeier of Guru Guru. The reason he gave is "all the good looking chicks went to the rock clubs".

As to Hiseman: He was the drummer of the United Jazz and Rock Ensemble; an all star band consisting of some of the finest European musicians in jazz and jazz-rock - Albert Mangelsdorff on trombone, Ian Carr on trumpet, Ack van Royen on trumpet and flugelhorn, Kenny Wheeler on trumpet and flugelhorn, Barbara Thompson on saxes and flute, Charlie Mariano on saxes, flute and nagaswaram, Wolfgang Dauner on keyboards, Volker Kriegel on guitar, Eberhard Weber on bass and Jon Hiseman on drums. Weber was later replaced by Dave King; here three videos of themwith King on bass.
Despite this super line-up they are very little known because their albums were record on the label Mood Records, the albums of which were exclusively sold by the shop chain 2001,which,at the time of the recording, had one shop each in Frankfurt, Cologne and, if I remember right, Hamburg. So there records were not easy to come by.

Here three videos of them, because they definitely deserve more recognition.





Hiseman also is the drummer of Barbara Thompson's band Paraphernalia; here two videos of them.











Edited by BaldFriede - June 09 2011 at 06:49

rushfan4 wrote: thehallway wrote: mrcozdude wrote: thehallway wrote: Pointless poll.............. Bill Bruford is treated like a God on this site. Remove him to get some interesting results amongst the other drummers. If I didn't put Bruford on the list I would of been hunted down,hung drawn and quartered. Proving my first point! But any poll is ultimately a popularity contest rather than a measure of..... whatever is attempting to be measured. Especially when people vote not having heard everything on the list, which let's face, is gonna happen no matter what (even I do it!). The curious amongst us will ask "Who is John Marshall?".  Whereas the cynical will ask "Where is Phil Collins?  He played jazz in Brand X?"  And then there are the Baldies who will ask "Where is Mani Neumeier?"    Point is, take what you can from the poll.  I suspect that none of the listed drummers will ever see this poll, and probably could care less that they are losing to Bruford, and if they did see this poll, they might even vote for Bruford.

Indeed this is true.

Interesting display pic for a Site Monitor.......

Vander actually IS a jazz drummer; he has a jazz trio and a jazz quartet, with which he recorded several albums.