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    Posted: June 18 2011 at 10:26
I would like to spread the love for one of the nuttiest composers and improvisers of our time: Fred Frith! The dude is an absolute monster when it comes to the guitar and it's amazing to see what he does with it. I want to hear more people concerning the enjoyment him (for those who don't know he was guitarist for pioneering RIO band Henry Cow- but most of his music sounds nothing like Cow).

For those who don't know where to start- start with Gravity 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote zravkapt Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 18 2011 at 13:47
Love Frith but I'm not familiar with most of his post-80s work (except Naked City).
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^ you should totaaaaally check out his post-80s stuff it's rather rad. Most of his albums are worth listening to, especially Speechless, Gravity, Cheap at Half Price, and Dropera which I just got and is great! He is more or less a master composer
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^ great stuff, I really don't know how his guitar is still in good shape after 40 years! Especially when he does those shenanigans
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I'm not sure, but I wonder if he hadn't replaced his guitars from decades to decades...
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Originally posted by CPicard CPicard wrote:

I'm not sure, but I wonder if he hadn't replaced his guitars from decades to decades...


You're obviously not a guitarist Tongue
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Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

Originally posted by CPicard CPicard wrote:

I'm not sure, but I wonder if he hadn't replaced his guitars from decades to decades...


You're obviously not a guitarist Tongue


No, I'm a bass player - but, sometimes, I try to adapt some techniques of Frith on my instrument.

By the way, the movie Step Across the Border (1990) is TO BE SEEN, WATCHED AND STUDIED (but that's, like, just my opinion, man).
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Alls I have to say is check out the Fred Frith entry on this site and see who added a bunch of titles. Big smile

I generally prefer his 70's and 80's stuff to his more recent, but I have Eye To Ear 3 on order.

My favorites are Gravity, Speechless, Cheap At Half The Price, and The Technology Of Tears. 

The Skeleton Crew albums are excellent, too.  I got to see them live. Big smile


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I've liked everything I've heard with Fred, really.  I know I'm not the only one here who knows French Frith Kaiser Thompson either, right Slarti?  Their music is really good. 
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His work with Naked City, Cosa Brava and the Cow was tremendous; I really despise his Derek Bailey-like thing going on his solo guitar performances though.
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Originally posted by SaltyJon SaltyJon wrote:

I've liked everything I've heard with Fred, really.  I know I'm not the only one here who knows French Frith Kaiser Thompson either, right Slarti?  Their music is really good. 

What's really funny is that Invisble Means came out on the Windham Hill label. LOL

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I still haven't heard that one, only Live, Love, Larf & Loaf.
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I need more Frith.
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His recent solo stuff is very good.

Remember he's a bassist too, and a very good one at that.
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Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

His recent solo stuff is very good.

Remember he's a bassist too, and a very good one at that.

Yeah, guitarist/bassist/violinist/mallet percussionist (at least some basic, he plays some on the Henry Cow DVD with the box set IIRC), vocalist, etc.  All-around talented fellow, I'd say.
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Originally posted by CPicard CPicard wrote:

Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

Originally posted by CPicard CPicard wrote:

I'm not sure, but I wonder if he hadn't replaced his guitars from decades to decades...


You're obviously not a guitarist Tongue


No, I'm a bass player - but, sometimes, I try to adapt some techniques of Frith on my instrument.

By the way, the movie Step Across the Border (1990) is TO BE SEEN, WATCHED AND STUDIED (but that's, like, just my opinion, man).

Yeah I know I MUST GET IT, do you know where can I buy it? Surprisingly it won best documentary in a bunch of festivals. Not only that it's Frith and Zorn and Kaiser and a behindload of other people but it's also supposedly actually a good film.

And I'm also a bassist and I've done a few of Frith's songs (Spring Any Day Now I've actually brought to a jazz ensemble, and they weren't very happy with it...). His bass playing shouldn't be overlooked, it is very percussive and precise.
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Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

His recent solo stuff is very good.

Remember he's a bassist too, and a very good one at that.

I didn't get any of his post-2000 stuff, anyone have anything to recommend?
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I actually don't own any solo Frith, which is surprising because he's my favourite guitarist
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Originally posted by Polo Polo wrote:

His work with Naked City, Cosa Brava and the Cow was tremendous; I really despise his Derek Bailey-like thing going on his solo guitar performances though.

I actually rather love them! The two ends of the spectrum that he does are both rather tremendous. His composing is incredible mostly because he can make a dance like tune sound completely messed up. I love his improvising because of the things he constantly does with the guitar which are absolutely bonkers! Always very interesting to hear, and just as interesting to see!
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