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    Posted: June 29 2011 at 00:14
Just wondering what you guys think of how many overrated prog songs there are
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Queen By-Tor Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 29 2011 at 01:43
grr... overrated is completely subjective.


I personally think The Battle Of Epping Forest is too silly for its own good, but that doesn't change anything. Many other people probably think that "The Camera Eye" by Rush is overrated - but I heart it to pieces.


Whatever. People will post their lists and feelings will be hurt. Although, knowing the nature of the forum these days it will just be people posting lists without looking at the ones already posted. No discussion - just narcissistic w**kery.
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Here's a list of songs/pieces that I believe are very highly regarded by many prog fans but leave me completely cold
(I guess it's my loss c/f nacrissistic w***kery)

1 - Close to the Edge Yes - the string of pearls that dreamed of being a diamond tiara
2 - Thick As a Brick Tull - the parody that came to represent what is being parodied
3 - Arrow VDGG - the tortured artist bites the hand that feeds him
4 - Moonchild  Crimson - stoned hippy amateurish noodling
5 - Echoes Floyd - stoned hippy professional noodling
6 - Lizard Crimson - how to stretch going from straight to swung time in 20 minutes
7 - In My Time of Dying Zep - gives 'interminable dirges' a bad name
8 - Interstellar Overdrive Floyd - good loving home required for affectionate little orphan riff
9 - Formentera Lady Crimson - stoned hippy semi pro noodling
10 - Elektrolurch Mutation Guru Guru - smug hippy garbage

If anyone feels sufficiently narcissistic today, head over to the Rogues Gallery thread and indulge yourselves.

Get the hand lotion ready fellas....

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dr prog Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 29 2011 at 05:17
genesis-musical box
jethro tull-my god
pink floyd-any colour you like
camel-lady fantasy
gentle giant-a cry for everyone
magma-mdk
yes-awaken
van der graaf-lighthouse keepers
king crimson-easy money
king crimson-fracture
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Have to think about it. A few songs come to my mind immediately, so I place these on top of my list:
 
  • A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers - Van der Graaf Generator
  • 21st Century Schizoid Man - King Crimson
  • Comfortably Numb - Pink Floyd

(likely to be cont'd)



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I can't quite get my head around A Plague Of Lighthouse Keepers... I've only heard it a couple of times but I keep coming back to it, cuz despite disliking some of the parts, I adore some others... It's confusing Oo
I'm still a pretty recent prog fan so I still dunno which songs will stand the test of time. Even so, I think The Cinema Show is A LITTLE BIT overrated,
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Fly From Here

Fly From Here

Fly From Here

Fly From Here

Fly From Here

Fly From Here

Fly From Here

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Slaughternalia Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 29 2011 at 17:14
Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

Here's a list of songs/pieces that I believe are very highly regarded by many prog fans but leave me completely cold
(I guess it's my loss c/f nacrissistic w***kery)

1 - Close to the Edge Yes - the string of pearls that dreamed of being a diamond tiara
2 - Thick As a Brick Tull - the parody that came to represent what is being parodied
3 - Arrow VDGG - the tortured artist bites the hand that feeds him
4 - Moonchild  Crimson - stoned hippy amateurish noodling
5 - Echoes Floyd - stoned hippy professional noodling
6 - Lizard Crimson - how to stretch going from straight to swung time in 20 minutes
7 - In My Time of Dying Zep - gives 'interminable dirges' a bad name
8 - Interstellar Overdrive Floyd - good loving home required for affectionate little orphan riff
9 - Formentera Lady Crimson - stoned hippy semi pro noodling
10 - Elektrolurch Mutation Guru Guru - smug hippy garbage

If anyone feels sufficiently narcissistic today, head over to the Rogues Gallery thread and indulge yourselves.

Get the hand lotion ready fellas....
Nobody likes Moonchild
I'm so mad that you enjoy a certain combination of noises that I don't
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Slaughternalia Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 29 2011 at 17:21
Originally posted by dr prog dr prog wrote:

genesis-musical box
jethro tull-my god
pink floyd-any colour you like
camel-lady fantasy
gentle giant-a cry for everyone
magma-mdk
yes-awaken
van der graaf-lighthouse keepers
king crimson-easy money
king crimson-fracture
I agree with all of these except Plague of Lighthouse Keepers and The Musical Box. I hate Awaken, never got into Magma, and Cry For Everyone is average (for Gentle Giant)
I'm so mad that you enjoy a certain combination of noises that I don't
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Evolver Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 29 2011 at 17:24
Originally posted by The_Jester The_Jester wrote:

Fly From Here

Fly From Here

Fly From Here

Fly From Here

Fly From Here

Fly From Here

Fly From Here

I just got my copy, and after two listens, so far I agree.
 
As for the rest of the songs mentioned, I like most of them, even Moonchild.
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"Supper's Ready"

Seriously.  It's just seven or so small song strung together.  No cohesion.
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21st Century Schizoid Man
I Talk To The Wind
Epitaph
Moonchild
In The Court Of The Crimson King
Shine On You Crazy Diamond (parts 1-5)
Welcome To The Machine
Have A Cigar
Wish You Were Here
Shine On You Crazy Diamond (parts 6-9)
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DavetheSlave Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 30 2011 at 06:58
No tracks come to mind - personally can't stand the entire Metallica tracklist or Tool's so any 10 from those 2 artists. Sorry to those who enjoy them - just personal preference.
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Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

Here's a list of songs/pieces that I believe are very highly regarded by many prog fans but leave me completely cold
(I guess it's my loss c/f nacrissistic w***kery)

1 - Close to the Edge Yes - the string of pearls that dreamed of being a diamond tiara
2 - Thick As a Brick Tull - the parody that came to represent what is being parodied
3 - Arrow VDGG - the tortured artist bites the hand that feeds him
4 - Moonchild  Crimson - stoned hippy amateurish noodling
5 - Echoes Floyd - stoned hippy professional noodling
6 - Lizard Crimson - how to stretch going from straight to swung time in 20 minutes
7 - In My Time of Dying Zep - gives 'interminable dirges' a bad name
8 - Interstellar Overdrive Floyd - good loving home required for affectionate little orphan riff
9 - Formentera Lady Crimson - stoned hippy semi pro noodling
10 - Elektrolurch Mutation Guru Guru - smug hippy garbage

If anyone feels sufficiently narcissistic today, head over to the Rogues Gallery thread and indulge yourselves.

Get the hand lotion ready fellas....

The only thing I agree with you here is MoonchildLOL 
Have to say that I enjoyed your review of Islands immensely - even if I don´t necessarily agree with you. The only thing funnier is perhaps your written rendition of the tracks on The Commercial album by The Residents - which literally had me spraying yellow secretions in my mamelukes.  
I also prefer a nice sandpaper w**k to the slippery hand lotion technique, where you have no grip at all...
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Guldbamsen Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 30 2011 at 08:48
I have never been fond of Epitaph from the ITCOTCK, which seems to be a fan fave around these parts. Too sugary for my tastes perhaps.
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Pink Floyd - Sheep
Pink Floyd - Pigs (Three Different Ones)
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Cute.  A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers still gets my vote.
 
Originally posted by The_Jester The_Jester wrote:

Fly From Here

Fly From Here

Fly From Here

Fly From Here

Fly From Here

Fly From Here

Fly From Here

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Karn Evil 9 (welcome back my friends to this interminable nonsense that seems like it will never end)
Haiku

Writing a poem
With seventeen syllables
Is very diffic....
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Originally posted by Frederik Frederik wrote:

I can't quite get my head around A Plague Of Lighthouse Keepers... I've only heard it a couple of times but I keep coming back to it, cuz despite disliking some of the parts, I adore some others... It's confusing Oo
I'm still a pretty recent prog fan so I still dunno which songs will stand the test of time. Even so, I think The Cinema Show is A LITTLE BIT overrated,


It took a me a while to fully warm up to "A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers" (I also only like parts of it at first), but after a while I loved it.  I think you'll probably love the whole thing at some time (and then maybe not love it later on).  After having taken a  break from Pawn hearts for a few years, I returned to it and really fell for the whole album (I loved Man Erg from first listen).  A year ago I was playing A Plague incessantly, but then I got tired of it (and then I got rather tired of VdGG generally).

As for Cinema Show, I used to ador that but mostly went off Genesis.

Anyway, I migth say Deep Purple's Child in Time.  I like it, but much prefer It's a Beautiful Day's Bombay Calling, and prefer Vince Wallace's Bombay Calling to that.

I think a fair amount of Renaiisance overrated because the group lifted from composers (and some of the best themes comes from others).  "Hamburger Concerto" is another that lifted and is less great because of it.

For nme the most overrated are often those which are unoriginal (themes were taken from others) yet get praise for their greatness.
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Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

Here's a list of songs/pieces that I believe are very highly regarded by many prog fans but leave me completely cold
(I guess it's my loss c/f nacrissistic w***kery)

1 - Close to the Edge Yes - the string of pearls that dreamed of being a diamond tiara
2 - Thick As a Brick Tull - the parody that came to represent what is being parodied
3 - Arrow VDGG - the tortured artist bites the hand that feeds him
4 - Moonchild  Crimson - stoned hippy amateurish noodling
5 - Echoes Floyd - stoned hippy professional noodling
6 - Lizard Crimson - how to stretch going from straight to swung time in 20 minutes
7 - In My Time of Dying Zep - gives 'interminable dirges' a bad name
8 - Interstellar Overdrive Floyd - good loving home required for affectionate little orphan riff
9 - Formentera Lady Crimson - stoned hippy semi pro noodling
10 - Elektrolurch Mutation Guru Guru - smug hippy garbage

If anyone feels sufficiently narcissistic today, head over to the Rogues Gallery thread and indulge yourselves.

Get the hand lotion ready fellas....


LOL

Pink Floyd - Dogs
Pink Floyd - Pigs (Three Different Ones)
Pink Floyd - Sheep

I've always found Animals to be undeserving of the high praise heaped upon it. All the tracks on it are very similar - they're even all in the same key of Em (except for Dogs, which is played in Em but on a tuned-down guitar). Similar verse structures, similar atmospheres, similar synthy interludes in the middle of the songs... I loved it the first few listens but the more I hear it the less interested I get.

Despite this, it seems to be hailed as a masterpiece of prog.



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