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HarbouringTheSoul
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Posted: May 24 2012 at 16:54 |
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Lord Anon
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Posted: May 24 2012 at 17:30 |
A few songs come to my mind immediately: - A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers - Van der Graaf Generator
- Theme 1 -
Van der Graaf Generator
- Hole in my Shoe - Traffic
- Illegal Alien - Genesis
- See Emily Play - Pink Floyd
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JOHN 15:18 : Jesus said: -"if the world hates you, remember that it hated me first."
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Snow Dog
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Posted: May 24 2012 at 17:37 |
I don't see any evidence that Illegal Alien is overrated.
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silcir
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Posted: May 25 2012 at 16:18 |
Snow Dog wrote:
^Those aren't songs.
And who does Marillion copy? |
Fish Marillion for me are like a simplified version of 70's symphonic prog. Without Fish i can't even tolerate listen to them.
I think their misplaced childhood album is hugely overrated. The whole album. Not so much the first 2 though, Fugazi being my favorite.
Another bunch of overrated are Hemispheres and A Farewell to Kings by Rush. I do rate moving pictures highly, so i dont feel that one is overrated.
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Posted: May 25 2012 at 22:36 |
I do like Genesis, but there is too much hype about their albums, as good as they are.
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JeanFrame
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Posted: May 26 2012 at 03:34 |
I dont think Supper's Ready should be on any list as overrated.
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Posted: May 26 2012 at 04:25 |
Actually I've heard far better 20 minute songs than Supper. But this is of course only my taste, and I can understand why people consider this a masterpiece, I don't.
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Snow Dog
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Posted: May 26 2012 at 04:37 |
silcir wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
^Those aren't songs.
And who does Marillion copy? |
Fish Marillion for me are like a simplified version of 70's symphonic prog.
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So they don't copy anyone then.
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: May 26 2012 at 11:58 |
[bu-u-u-u-u-urb] ... Worst thread ever ... or at least one of the worst.
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Posted: May 27 2012 at 03:48 |
Dayvenkirq wrote:
[bu-u-u-u-u-urb] ... Worst thread ever ... or at least one of the worst. |
People just seem to have an aversion to the word "overrated".
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: May 27 2012 at 03:57 |
^ If so, what word should be there instead? Or ... . "Songs that get too much attention" ? "One of the relatively few songs one's knowledge is limited to" ? ... ... .
Edited by Dayvenkirq - May 27 2012 at 03:58
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ExittheLemming
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Posted: May 27 2012 at 05:51 |
These de trop threads are strange critters. Many on PA appear a tad oversensitive to the polar extremes of 'overrated' and 'underrated' but ain't this dependent on whose opinions you hear? if you move in metal circles, you will hear many fans raving about certain metal albums if you move in jazz circles, you will hear many fans raving about certain jazz albums if you move in indie rock circles, you will hear many fans raving about certain alt-rock albums
Does anyone move in Prog circles? (the only opinions I get to hear are those facilitated by the internet)
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ScorchedFirth
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Posted: May 28 2012 at 03:48 |
yes's cover of america
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breathing, eating, defecating, screwing, drinking, spewing, sleeping...
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Cristi
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Posted: February 23 2015 at 06:58 |
Reading some of the comments here just gives me a headache; for some people, being overrated means bands/albums people love but they don't. To me overrated is appreciation exaggerated, something over-hyped, a band/album that may deserve to be appreciated but not that much. Basically it's more than they deserve. Plus, being famous does not mean being overrated either.
Edited by Cristi - February 23 2015 at 06:59
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Curiosity killed a cat, Schroedinger only half. My poor home recorded stuff at https://yellingxoanon.bandcamp.com
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Cristi
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Posted: February 23 2015 at 07:12 |
how am I right when I disagree with that definition of overrated?
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Walton Street
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Posted: February 23 2015 at 07:26 |
Cristi wrote:
for some people, being overrated means bands/albums people love but they don't.
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that is the ONLY definition of overrated. the use of the word gives me a headache.
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"I know one thing: that I know nothing"
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Cristi
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Posted: February 23 2015 at 07:36 |
Walton Street wrote:
Cristi wrote:
for some people, being overrated means bands/albums people love but they don't.
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that is the ONLY definition of overrated. |
I disagree, for example I think Kiss are overrated (they don't deserve all the attention they get), do I like them? Yes, they have a ton of good songs.
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Walton Street
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Posted: February 23 2015 at 07:40 |
Cristi wrote:
Walton Street wrote:
Cristi wrote:
for some people, being overrated means bands/albums people love but they don't.
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that is the ONLY definition of overrated. |
I disagree, for example I think Kiss are overrated (they don't deserve all the attention they get), do I like them? Yes, they have a ton of good songs.
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you don't get to tell people that they like something more than they should - it's beyond arrogant. we cant read minds, we cant tell who or if someone is jumping on a bandwagon. you just have to accept that a lot of people like something more than you do. I used to feel this way - I thought the Movie Titanic was 'overrated' Part of my growth was I had to learn to get over myself and accept that people value and rate things according to how they feel and it's ok if they like the things I don't, and don't like the things I do .. their tastes are appropriate for them .. as mine are for me. it's really that simple
Edited by Walton Street - February 23 2015 at 07:40
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"I know one thing: that I know nothing"
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Cristi
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Posted: February 23 2015 at 08:10 |
Walton Street wrote:
Cristi wrote:
Walton Street wrote:
Cristi wrote:
for some people, being overrated means bands/albums people love but they don't.
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that is the ONLY definition of overrated. |
I disagree, for example I think Kiss are overrated (they don't deserve all the attention they get), do I like them? Yes, they have a ton of good songs.
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you don't get to tell people that they like something more than they should - it's beyond arrogant. we cant read minds, we cant tell who or if someone is jumping on a bandwagon. you just have to accept that a lot of people like something more than you do. I used to feel this way - I thought the Movie Titanic was 'overrated' Part of my growth was I had to learn to get over myself and accept that people value and rate things according to how they feel and it's ok if they like the things I don't, and don't like the things I do .. their tastes are appropriate for them .. as mine are for me. it's really that simple |
The terms "overrated/underrated" are all about subjectivity. It's not about judging someone else's tastes. I never implied that. Like I said, something overrated is when appreciating something reaches exaggeration. It becomes a hype, talk of the town to the point of annoyance almost. Titanic is an overrated movie , OMG, back then it was like , if you hadn't seen it, you lived for nothing.
Edited by Cristi - February 23 2015 at 08:12
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