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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 21 2011 at 05:35
One more for BSS.

If this were a discussion about favourite ELP albums, it would probably be different, but for getting into their music, I find BSS to be the most accessable, although Toccata could prove a bit of a challenge at first.

Nothing at all against the other first 4 albums, they're all brilliant, but for someone looking to get aquainted with ELP the first album and Trilogy might prove a bit dark, and Tarkus a bit too chaotic. And Pictures at an Exhibition is a bit too un-ELP-ish. Sounds weird, this being practically their signature piece, but it's not really very much like anything else they've done.

By the way, I'm quite fond of Love Beach (the Show-Your-Weeny-To-The-World album).


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 21 2011 at 14:35
IMHO I would go with either the self-titled debut or Trilogy. To me, they are ELP's best 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 21 2011 at 14:41
BBS or self titled are the best!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 21 2011 at 15:33
I don't know why Trilogy doesn't get more love. I like it as mush as BSS,Tarkus or Welcome back.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 21 2011 at 16:11
I wonder if ELP themselves weren't too fond of Trilogy, reason being that apart from Hoedown, Welcome Back didn't contain any tracks from that album (or any other of their live releases either, come to think of it). And Hoedown's not exactly the showcase from trilogy.

Shame, badly underrepresented, I find.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 21 2011 at 16:45
Picture could has been as good as the three others but it failed because Emerson is a fantastic instrumentalist ( Organ and Piano ) but not quite a Moog master and especialy when playing it on stage at the time, to my ears those parts realy spoiled the album
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 22 2011 at 01:40
Originally posted by jean-marie jean-marie wrote:

Picture could has been as good as the three others but it failed because Emerson is a fantastic instrumentalist ( Organ and Piano ) but not quite a Moog master and especialy when playing it on stage at the time, to my ears those parts realy spoiled the album
 
He did tend to use it as a novelty toy rather rather than a musical instrument in the early days although the solo on The Old Castle is the reason I became an ELP fan and opened my eyes (and ears) to the magnificient potential of the synthesiser in rock music.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 22 2011 at 03:24
Novelty toy is the right word LOL but it's ok  for me through the studio albums....but Pictures at an exibition has a few boring parts
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 22 2011 at 12:07
Originally posted by npjnpj npjnpj wrote:

I wonder if ELP themselves weren't too fond of Trilogy, reason being that apart from Hoedown, Welcome Back didn't contain any tracks from that album (or any other of their live releases either, come to think of it). And Hoedown's not exactly the showcase from trilogy.

Shame, badly underrepresented, I find.


In an interview Greg Lake stated that Trilogy was his favorite album, but you're right, it's under represented in their live performances. Probably because most of their audience prefere BSS and Tarkus.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 22 2011 at 12:09
The debut and Brain Salad Surgery are my favorite albums.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 22 2011 at 12:12
Originally posted by npjnpj npjnpj wrote:

I wonder if ELP themselves weren't too fond of Trilogy, reason being that apart from Hoedown, Welcome Back didn't contain any tracks from that album (or any other of their live releases either, come to think of it). And Hoedown's not exactly the showcase from trilogy.

Shame, badly underrepresented, I find.
I don't think it was released officially, but they did do stuff from Trilogy live


Also The Sheriff is on Welcome back...


Edited by Slaughternalia - July 22 2011 at 12:14
I'm so mad that you enjoy a certain combination of noises that I don't
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 22 2011 at 17:35
Much of the material on Trilogy wasn't played live simply because they couldn't replicate the numerous parts overdubbed by Keith in the studio. The title track was never performed live and Abaddon's Bolero was abandoned after an attempt to play along with a backing track on stage went disastrously wrong. The Endless Enigma was performed on a European leg of the tour but seems to have been dropped pretty quickly from the set. (Judging by bootlegs available from around this time, the live version featured a significantly altered melody sung by Lake)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 22 2011 at 17:49

Let me Tarkus, Trilogy and the first one and i can live without the rest  Big smile

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 22 2011 at 23:21
Debut, Tarkus and Brain salad Surgery are quintessential ELP
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 23 2011 at 02:54
Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

Much of the material on Trilogy wasn't played live simply because they couldn't replicate the numerous parts overdubbed by Keith in the studio. The title track was never performed live and Abaddon's Bolero was abandoned after an attempt to play along with a backing track on stage went disastrously wrong. The Endless Enigma was performed on a European leg of the tour but seems to have been dropped pretty quickly from the set. (Judging by bootlegs available from around this time, the live version featured a significantly altered melody sung by Lake)
 
You are correct accept that Trilogy was attempted live. Apparently Keith Emerson though did not regard it as a proper performance. I have heard it though and it was a decent attempt.
 
Another possible reason why Trilogy didn't feature in live shows was that Greg Lake's voice dropped an octave or two soon after due to his smoking habit. Caused may issues and even Karn Evil 9 had to be re-scored by Emerson for live shows so the version that is on Welcome Back is not exactly like the version on the album (quite noticeably to my ears)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 23 2011 at 02:56
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 23 2011 at 04:51
^^^ Dang thats good!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 23 2011 at 06:39
Well I'll be damned Richard....I've never heard ELP attempt Trilogy before (and it ain't bad)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 23 2011 at 06:49
Originally posted by Slaughternalia Slaughternalia wrote:

Actually come to think of it f**k the studio albums. Welcome Back My Friends To The Show That Never Ends is all you'll need by ELP. they play WAY better on that then any studio album IMO. Plus it has pretty much all their best stuff
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 23 2011 at 07:52
BSS is mainly rubbish
 
jerusalem is ok
taccota is good but its not even an elp song
still you turn me on is boring
benny the bouncer is crap
karnevil is half great and half daggy
 
This was the beginning of the end for elp
 


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