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Posted: March 28 2013 at 15:03
Larree wrote:
I love Tarkus. Tarkus and Pictures at an Exhibition are my two favorite ELP albums. Followed closely by the first album and Brain Salad Surgery.
C'mon...everyone knows the fist one is the best.
I remember when a friend bought Tarkus , '71, and we went back to his apt ...uh...imbibed a little and then played it and we were a bit let down by it except for the Tarkus track itself. I actually like Trilogy and BSS better....it really comes down to personal likes in the end.
Please don't get me started on all the lousy lp's they made later.
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Posted: March 28 2013 at 13:49
Moogtron III wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
I always have and always will love side 2 of Tarkus. I love everything by ELP from the debut to the triple live album. Faultless imo.
I like most of side 2.
I like all of side 2, it may not be all masterpiece but it has more than enough great music to be a very worthy LP side, it's only by comparison to side 1 that people bash it so much. I never skip a song when listening to Tarkus.
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Posted: March 28 2013 at 10:05
richardh wrote:
dr wu23 wrote:
I'm going with the first ELP......after all this time one of my top twenty prog lp's....but then I was in an altered state of consciousness most of that year and was a fan of Lake and KC so I was no doubt biased.
Trilogy next then BSS then Tarkus then Pictures....and I have to sayI never understood why they would always put one or two crap beerhall songs on their later lp's after the first one. They inevitably ruined the flow of the lp's..imo.
A lot of these 'beerhall songs' were very short and probably served as a positive break in the flow. For instance Benny The Bouncer precedes Karn Evil which is just shy of 30 minutes long which is almost a whole LP in those days.
The Sheriff made a nice companion peice to Hoedown. Tarkus side two has a few of these songs but then the whole of side two was a mess in my opinion. People will always focus on side one.At the time the band was still developing and there was I believe a tug of war of musical ideas going on between Lake and Emerson. Side One was Emerson's.
The debut of all there early albums is the one that lacks flow ironically. A series of episodes and Emerson proving what an amazing keyboard player he is. I never understand why that gets so much love although I don't think any ELP album is perfect.
I see your point but I can't stand those cheesy little silly songs ...just me.
And imo the debut flows beautifully....maybe it was just all those alternate states of mind.
;)
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Posted: March 28 2013 at 02:48
dr wu23 wrote:
I'm going with the first ELP......after all this time one of my top twenty prog lp's....but then I was in an altered state of consciousness most of that year and was a fan of Lake and KC so I was no doubt biased.
Trilogy next then BSS then Tarkus then Pictures....and I have to sayI never understood why they would always put one or two crap beerhall songs on their later lp's after the first one. They inevitably ruined the flow of the lp's..imo.
A lot of these 'beerhall songs' were very short and probably served as a positive break in the flow. For instance Benny The Bouncer precedes Karn Evil which is just shy of 30 minutes long which is almost a whole LP in those days.
The Sheriff made a nice companion peice to Hoedown. Tarkus side two has a few of these songs but then the whole of side two was a mess in my opinion. People will always focus on side one.At the time the band was still developing and there was I believe a tug of war of musical ideas going on between Lake and Emerson. Side One was Emerson's.
The debut of all there early albums is the one that lacks flow ironically. A series of episodes and Emerson proving what an amazing keyboard player he is. I never understand why that gets so much love although I don't think any ELP album is perfect.
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Posted: March 27 2013 at 22:33
I'm going with the first ELP......after all this time one of my top twenty prog lp's....but then I was in an altered state of consciousness most of that year and was a fan of Lake and KC so I was no doubt biased.
Trilogy next then BSS then Tarkus then Pictures....and I have to sayI never understood why they would always put one or two crap beerhall songs on their later lp's after the first one. They inevitably ruined the flow of the lp's..imo.
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Posted: March 20 2013 at 15:28
I completely agree with richardh in the list he's made of the first albums. I would include, though, Pictures at an Exhibition as an important an album as any of the other first four studio ones. Although mainly based on Modest Mussorgsky's music, it contains a lot of ELP music and the musical arrangements can make you forget for a while it is classical music... or can they make you think prog rock has more to do with the classics than apparently has? Anything between 1970 and 1974 is a correct choice. Though Tarkus may be my favourite composition, Trilogy is definitely my favourite ELP album.
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Posted: March 16 2013 at 11:38
BSS, Debut and Tarkus in that order for me.
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Posted: February 17 2013 at 03:47
dr prog wrote:
I'm always the opposite in here. I prefer Side 2 of Tarkus over side 1.
There are some things I really like about that side (Lake's vocal is exceptional on The Only Way and Emerson rips up the organ on A Time And A Place like nothing I've ever heard before or since) but generally it sounds like a series of unrelated bits and peices. Side one is a complete conceptual work and one of the first to come from a rock band.
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