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    Posted: July 18 2011 at 09:37
For some strange reason, I never got into Fates Warning in the past despite really liking Queensryche. So I just picked up Perfect Symmetry which sounds very much like The Warning / Rage era with something new added, real prog!
 
The end of "At Fates Hands" is amazing, especially considering it was 1989.
 
So my question is, where do I go next for more of the prog aspect?
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Try A Pleasant Shade of Grey. Their best album IMO. Disconnected is also great.
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If you are looking for the "prog" aspect, A Pleasant Shade of Grey is the answer, great album that becomes outstanding after a few listens. Disconnected is good too and even their last one FWX is quite decent if you give it time. The only album that is well regarded whose magic I have never really detected is Awaken the Guardian, a borefest. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Negoba Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 18 2011 at 11:42
Thanks, seems like Pleasant Shade of Grey is the choice after reading a few old FW threads.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote CCVP Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 18 2011 at 11:44
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

If you are looking for the "prog" aspect, A Pleasant Shade of Grey is the answer, great album that becomes outstanding after a few listens. Disconnected is good too and even their last one FWX is quite decent if you give it time. The only album that is well regarded whose magic I have never really detected is Awaken the Guardian, a borefest. 
 
I took some time to like Awaken the Guardian, but now it is one of my fav FW album. But it does sound a bit out of place, I agree.
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Try Parallels and A Pleasant Shade of Grey. The former represents the band with a melodic heavy metal edge (very much like Queensryche - even more than Perfect Symmetry), whereas the latter is an extremely progressive concept album. And both are awesome. Thumbs Up

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I have only one album Disconnected
and enjoyed it a lot. it's very unique in style, mix of metal with subtle ethnic elements and some noise electronics
I'd call that "ambient metal" (if such thing exist).
Is there some similar in style from other bands?

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OP is on the money.  Perfect Symmetry was one of 4 albums that really sparked my foray into progmetal. That one along with Watchtower Control and Resistance, DT's Dream and Day, and Voivod's Dimension Hatross.
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No Exit is less proggy, but I don't think you'd forgive yourself if you don't hear it. The Arch stuff is great too.
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I was a huge Fates Warning fan in the 80's/early 90's..... I can't stand Pleasent Shade Of Gray Dead
 
But yeah, Parallels and Inside Out are both fairly Perfect Symmetry-like...maybe a bit more metal though.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote moszaic Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 12 2011 at 03:47
I really like three fates' albums
1.Pleasant shade...
2.Disconnected
3.FWX
What a great job a producer can do?(if his name is Terry Brown)---at least for the 2 of them
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Originally posted by CCVP CCVP wrote:

Try A Pleasant Shade of Grey. Their best album IMO. Disconnected is also great.


Agreed. Height of their technical peak is A PLEASANT SHADE OF GREY. PERFECT SYMETRY is 2nd I feel
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote UMUR Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 21 2012 at 12:51
I´d say go for this one:
 
Technically not a Fates warning album, but very close.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Federico95 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 22 2012 at 12:21
I would suggest Inside Out which is a very good album with great atmospheres because I think that it is the nearest one to Perfect Symmetry for its sound, but my favourite overall is Parallels.

Inside Out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KI0bfPf88Qk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90O_9s8-my0

Parallels:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVf6Jj42o7Q&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRrDyc4d2f0
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^^ oh great albums for sure!! I just feel both Parallels and Inside out aren't albums that demonstrate the peak of their proggiest performances, although they are both great albums and really showed another side of Fates that they could commercialize their sound a bit. Definitely Fates's most accessible albums. How can anyone not love MONUMENT!!!
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Monument is fantastic, I especially love the outro even if it has completely nothing to do with the rest of the song LOL
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Originally posted by Federico95 Federico95 wrote:

Monument is fantastic, I especially love the outro even if it has completely nothing to do with the rest of the song LOL


I know!! It's brilliant. What do you think of THE IVORY GATE OF DREAMS? For me, it's one of their best songs for sure. It's also a song that really defined progressive metal in general. So many great bands learned a lot from Fates When they were at their proggiest. ;)
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Thanks for the Arch/Metheos mention.  I was listening to tons of FW back
in 2003 to around 2005 and it's good to hear this same voice again doing
new things.  I had no idea this album existed. 
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I always found 90s FW quite boring. It's not by playing dissonant notes and odd signatures that you'll get a good prog album. Go with Awaken the Guardian! It has Jon Arch on vocals, good Iron Maiden influences and it's the one that really progresses from the typical 80s heavy metal sound IMO.
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Originally posted by brainstormer brainstormer wrote:

Thanks for the Arch/Metheos mention.  I was listening to tons of FW back
in 2003 to around 2005 and it's good to hear this same voice again doing
new things.  I had no idea this album existed. 
 
^Well as you can see on the frontpage of PAs sister site MMA, it was voted album of the year by the Collabs on that site: http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/. Great album indeedHeadbanger
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