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Negoba
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Topic: Proggiest Fates Warning Posted: July 18 2011 at 09:37 |
For some strange reason, I never got into Fates Warning in the past despite really liking Queensryche. So I just picked up Perfect Symmetry which sounds very much like The Warning / Rage era with something new added, real prog!
The end of "At Fates Hands" is amazing, especially considering it was 1989.
So my question is, where do I go next for more of the prog aspect?
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CCVP
Prog Reviewer Joined: September 15 2007 Location: Vitória, Brasil Status: Offline Points: 7971 |
Posted: July 18 2011 at 11:32 |
Try A Pleasant Shade of Grey. Their best album IMO. Disconnected is also great.
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The T
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Posted: July 18 2011 at 11:34 |
If you are looking for the "prog" aspect, A Pleasant Shade of Grey is the answer, great album that becomes outstanding after a few listens. Disconnected is good too and even their last one FWX is quite decent if you give it time. The only album that is well regarded whose magic I have never really detected is Awaken the Guardian, a borefest.
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Negoba
Prog Reviewer Joined: July 24 2008 Location: Big Muddy Status: Offline Points: 5208 |
Posted: July 18 2011 at 11:42 |
Thanks, seems like Pleasant Shade of Grey is the choice after reading a few old FW threads.
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CCVP
Prog Reviewer Joined: September 15 2007 Location: Vitória, Brasil Status: Offline Points: 7971 |
Posted: July 18 2011 at 11:44 |
I took some time to like Awaken the Guardian, but now it is one of my fav FW album. But it does sound a bit out of place, I agree.
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J-Man
Prog Reviewer Joined: August 07 2008 Location: Philadelphia,PA Status: Offline Points: 7826 |
Posted: July 18 2011 at 12:13 |
Try Parallels and A Pleasant Shade of Grey. The former represents the band with a melodic heavy metal edge (very much like Queensryche - even more than Perfect Symmetry), whereas the latter is an extremely progressive concept album. And both are awesome.
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awaken77
Forum Senior Member Joined: December 25 2008 Status: Offline Points: 374 |
Posted: August 31 2011 at 02:39 |
I have only one album Disconnected
and enjoyed it a lot. it's very unique in style, mix of metal with subtle ethnic elements and some noise electronics I'd call that "ambient metal" (if such thing exist). Is there some similar in style from other bands? |
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Tapfret
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: August 12 2007 Location: Bryant, Wa Status: Offline Points: 8571 |
Posted: August 31 2011 at 18:13 |
OP is on the money. Perfect Symmetry was one of 4 albums that really sparked my foray into progmetal. That one along with Watchtower Control and Resistance, DT's Dream and Day, and Voivod's Dimension Hatross.
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: August 31 2011 at 20:13 |
No Exit is less proggy, but I don't think you'd forgive yourself if you don't hear it. The Arch stuff is great too.
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Jbird
Forum Senior Member Joined: June 20 2011 Status: Offline Points: 338 |
Posted: September 01 2011 at 06:51 |
I was a huge Fates Warning fan in the 80's/early 90's..... I can't stand Pleasent Shade Of Gray
But yeah, Parallels and Inside Out are both fairly Perfect Symmetry-like...maybe a bit more metal though.
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moszaic
Forum Newbie Joined: March 05 2011 Status: Offline Points: 35 |
Posted: September 12 2011 at 03:47 |
I really like three fates' albums
1.Pleasant shade... 2.Disconnected 3.FWX What a great job a producer can do?(if his name is Terry Brown)---at least for the 2 of them
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progbethyname
Forum Senior Member Joined: July 30 2012 Location: HiFi Headmania Status: Offline Points: 7750 |
Posted: October 21 2012 at 12:43 |
Agreed. Height of their technical peak is A PLEASANT SHADE OF GREY. PERFECT SYMETRY is 2nd I feel |
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UMUR
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 19 2007 Location: Denmark Status: Online Points: 3010 |
Posted: October 21 2012 at 12:51 |
I´d say go for this one:
Technically not a Fates warning album, but very close.
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Federico95
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Posted: October 22 2012 at 12:21 |
I would suggest Inside Out which is a very good album with great atmospheres because I think that it is the nearest one to Perfect Symmetry for its sound, but my favourite overall is Parallels.
Inside Out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KI0bfPf88Qk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90O_9s8-my0 Parallels: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVf6Jj42o7Q&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRrDyc4d2f0 |
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progbethyname
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Posted: October 22 2012 at 14:45 |
^^ oh great albums for sure!! I just feel both Parallels and Inside out aren't albums that demonstrate the peak of their proggiest performances, although they are both great albums and really showed another side of Fates that they could commercialize their sound a bit. Definitely Fates's most accessible albums. How can anyone not love MONUMENT!!!
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Federico95
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Posted: October 23 2012 at 06:37 |
Monument is fantastic, I especially love the outro even if it has completely nothing to do with the rest of the song
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progbethyname
Forum Senior Member Joined: July 30 2012 Location: HiFi Headmania Status: Offline Points: 7750 |
Posted: October 23 2012 at 10:45 |
I know!! It's brilliant. What do you think of THE IVORY GATE OF DREAMS? For me, it's one of their best songs for sure. It's also a song that really defined progressive metal in general. So many great bands learned a lot from Fates When they were at their proggiest. ;) |
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brainstormer
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Posted: October 23 2012 at 15:08 |
Thanks for the Arch/Metheos mention. I was listening to tons of FW back
in 2003 to around 2005 and it's good to hear this same voice again doing new things. I had no idea this album existed.
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Ytse_Jam
Forum Senior Member Joined: December 08 2011 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 502 |
Posted: October 23 2012 at 15:14 |
I always found 90s FW quite boring. It's not by playing dissonant notes and odd signatures that you'll get a good prog album. Go with Awaken the Guardian! It has Jon Arch on vocals, good Iron Maiden influences and it's the one that really progresses from the typical 80s heavy metal sound IMO.
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UMUR
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Posted: October 23 2012 at 15:18 |
^Well as you can see on the frontpage of PAs sister site MMA, it was voted album of the year by the Collabs on that site: http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/. Great album indeed
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