Progressive metal

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you all know that opeth is one of the bands that HAS to be on progarchives..
a band with much influence of opeth and backwards: novembre..

Even some progholes would like:
Kayo dot formally known as Maudlin of the well (some pieces are VERY heavy though!)

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Radioactive Toy Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: March 06 2004 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 953	Topic: Progressive metal Posted: May 16 2004 at 09:35
	you all know that opeth is one of the bands that HAS to be on progarchives.. a band with much influence of opeth and backwards: novembre.. Even some progholes would like: Kayo dot formally known as Maudlin of the well (some pieces are VERY heavy though!)
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graven31 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Newbie Joined: May 16 2004 Status: Offline Points: 2	Posted: May 16 2004 at 18:31
	I agree, myself being an Opeth fan. I also think Cynic should appear in the archives. I was surprised to see no mention of Cynic in the Gordian Knot archive, as it was Sean Malone's early 90's jazz-fusion-esque metal project and deserves at least a recommendation. Adding technical metal acts like Death and Atheist would be nice, too. Nice work, otherwise. But I'm having trtouble finding the Harvest archive.

Bryan Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 01 2004 Status: Offline Points: 3013	Posted: May 16 2004 at 21:17
	I think Opeth will get added. I've been pleading their case for some time. Max has a lot of artists to consider though, so give it time.

Certif1ed Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 08 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 7559	Posted: May 17 2004 at 03:34
	I don't know Opeth, but will check them out. Death may be technical, but so are/were Celtic Frost, Megadeth and a host of other so-called thrash metal bands. It's easy to miss the technicalities of what these great bands do if all you hear is "noise", because you aren't listening properly. It's a bit like looking at one of those 3d posters - you know, the ones where you only see a messy pattern until you look in a certain way, then the picture stands out in a quite spectacular way. They do fall into a grey area, however, as that style is clearly recognisable as a style in its own right, and I don't really hear them as prog. If any more progressive Metal bands are added, then Diamond Head (the very first prog metal band) should be added first, IMO.

CrimsonKing Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: May 17 2004 Status: Offline Points: 150	Posted: May 18 2004 at 18:15
	YES. Opeth, Cynic, Novembre are making music that's expanding the boundaries of progressive.
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lucas Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 06 2004 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 8138	Posted: May 19 2004 at 15:23
	Cynic, Death, Atheist and Pestilence have a mention in the New Gibraltar Encyclopedia of Progressive Rock.
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Certif1ed Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 08 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 7559	Posted: May 20 2004 at 17:13
	Bah! NGEPR doesn't list Celtic Frost. Humbug!

DNA1997 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Newbie Joined: March 08 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 28	Posted: May 30 2004 at 09:44
	I'm not a big C.F. fan either. I do think we could definitely add another subgenre for the heavier stuff. Lots of bands put out things that could be considered prog. Nevermore for instance. Queensryche is here, so they are just a heavier version. But then again, pretty soon we'd have to include Emperor & Dimmu Borgir (they use keyboards!!!) and a whole host of others. Don't get me wrong I love those guys, but we'd probably run everyone else off. I think the issue is that so many Death/Black/Doom bands were very heavily influenced by early prog. Take Candlemass. You can hear definite elements of prog in their music. The same with Tiamat and Amorphis..... you get my point. So maybe instead we should lobby for a new category in the overarching genre. (I know, just what prog or metal needs, another damn category. But maybe it'll help)