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    Posted: August 06 2011 at 23:54
Progressive-rock subgenres are not always clear-cut. Thus, it's inevitable that some bands on PA end up not being filed under the subgenre that most accurately reflects their musical style. I've seen many threads on the forum requesting changes in a band's classification, so I figured that I'd start a thread organizing all these requests in one place. If you feel that a band is incorrectly classified, post here and provide a sample and/or justification that supports your request.

This thread is NOT the place to discuss the quality of a band's music. It's just a way to make it easier for the collabs to properly classify the many bands that are included on the site.
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Anyways, I'd like to suggest that Unifaun be moved from Symphonic Prog into Neo-Prog. The music focuses primarily on lush synths and vocals. This is Genesis-prog, but in a Marillion kind of way.
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Great idea! Let me start out with Kravetz who´s filed under Krautrock:




I really love that album and don´t pay too much attention to the genres in general, - but this is very far away from being Krautrock.


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I've always wondered what made Dun a zeuhl band

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Originally posted by Triceratopsoil

I've always wondered what made Dun a zeuhl band


I absolutely agree. They're RIO/Avant.
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One I've come across recently is Chest Rockwell, who are listed as neo prog. If I'm honest, I don't see much prog at all, but definitely not Neo.
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IMHO Singularity (http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=687) should be filed under Symphonic instead of Crossover.  Their first album may be Crossover, somewhat, but to me their latest two are pure Symphonic.
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Originally posted by Anthony H.

Originally posted by Triceratopsoil

I've always wondered what made Dun a zeuhl band


I absolutely agree. They're RIO/Avant.


That line is very blurred. I agree on Dun.  That one appears to be purely association and geography based.  Amygdala is another that really straddles the line. There are also a few RIO/Avant bands I would consider Zeuhl as well like Nebelnest and Guapo.

The progmetal subs get a little boggy too. Bands like Gordian Knot have a few distorted parts, but a distorted guitar does not always metal make.


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having Deerhoof classified as Xover is strange and causes issues when they are being reviewed. Avant or Math Rock even Eclectic would be closer to their classification outside this site.
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I'm sure I'm displaying my ignorance but I also struggle with some classifications. Obviously many prog albums display characteristics of more than one sub-genre, but why is a band like Harvester Indo-prog (yes Hemåt contains some raga) while Dzyan is Krautrock (much more Raga than Harvester and possibly more Indo-prog than krautrock?)?
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Rather than solicit a response on this guys, I've pretty much got my head around this on the way to work this morning. These pesky prog artists refuse to restrict their output to one clearly defined sub-genre of music. Curse them! Big smile
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wut

where did you get that avatar

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Posts: 17190 		Post Options Post Options   Quote Henry Plainview Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 15 2011 at 03:09
Originally posted by Triceratopsoil

wut

where did you get that avatar

It's one of the defaults...
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David Bedford in crossover prog???? Confused 
 
 
 
 
Should definitely be Avant/RIO, no???Smile
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Originally posted by Henry Plainview

Originally posted by Triceratopsoil

wut

where did you get that avatar

It's one of the defaults...


At the time I posted that he had stolen my avatar

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Elias Hulk are classified as a krautrock band, but they do not have a "German" way of doing rock. They should be under Heavy Prog, like the reviewer mentioned. (yes I have listened to the album)
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Could collabs possibly review this page? And perhaps a pin would be good?
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Originally posted by Sean Trane

David Bedford in crossover prog???? Confused 
 
 
 
 
Should definitely be Avant/RIO, no???Smile

You should bring that up in the ZART thread then.

I guess I'll report each of these to the respective teams for you guys.
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Posts: 11593 		Post Options Post Options   Quote Andy Webb Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 17 2011 at 07:54
Originally posted by Guldbamsen

Great idea! Let me start out with Kravetz who´s filed under Krautrock:




I really love that album and don´t pay too much attention to the genres in general, - but this is very far away from being Krautrock.

I have little expertise on Kraut, so what do you guys think these guys should be under? I heard either heavy or symph.
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Originally posted by Bosh66

I'm sure I'm displaying my ignorance but I also struggle with some classifications. Obviously many prog albums display characteristics of more than one sub-genre, but why is a band like Harvester Indo-prog (yes Hemåt contains some raga) while Dzyan is Krautrock (much more Raga than Harvester and possibly more Indo-prog than krautrock?)?

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So you think Harvester should be moved to Kraut and Dzyan to Indo?
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