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Prog Geo 
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 Posted: August 11 2011 at 08:40 |
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2112!
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digdug
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Posted: August 11 2011 at 08:55 |
both are awesome in different ways
can't vote!
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Varon
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Posted: August 11 2011 at 08:57 |
 Anthony H. wrote:
Tarkus is better in pretty much every way. 
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Would you catch the final words of mine?
Would you catch my words???
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Mellotron Storm
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Posted: August 11 2011 at 09:08 |
Rush destroys ELP  I would take Rush's worst album over Tarkus.
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"The wind is slowly tearing her apart"
"Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN
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The T
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Posted: August 11 2011 at 09:40 |
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Though Rush destroys, obliterates, wipes the floor with, ELP, in this particular case we're talking about the latter's real masterpiece vs the former's okay epic. Tarkus wins.
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Posted: August 11 2011 at 10:00 |
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2112 Side 2 >> Tarkus Side 2
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Mellotron Storm
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Posted: August 11 2011 at 10:08 |
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"The wind is slowly tearing her apart"
"Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN
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The T
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Posted: August 11 2011 at 10:33 |
 I don't love it as much I do post-2112 Rush. I prefer other Rush albums and songs. And yes Ancient Pat is right. The "other" songs in 2112 kill the "other" songs in Tarkus. For me (for ME, please) ELP is almost a one-song band. One long epic song, but one.
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Alitare
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Posted: August 11 2011 at 10:40 |
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^ And that one song is Lucky Man, right? :P
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Mastosis
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Posted: August 11 2011 at 10:48 |
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Both are amazing, but the bass and horns on Tarkus blows 2112 away!
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A wise man once said, " I have always wanted to be quoted." 
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Posted: August 11 2011 at 11:02 |
Alitare wrote:
^ And that one song is Lucky Man, right? :P |
Obviously, is the one this thread is about.
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Alitare
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Posted: August 11 2011 at 11:17 |
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Can't a guy jokel yer yokel, hokel? Of course I knew which you were referring to. But to be honest, I do place both bands on the same level. When I get right down to it, there isn't a single album from either Rush or ELP that would be in my top 350 albums (and only one from each that would crack my top 1,000). I really just don't care a bit for either. Nothing wrong with them or in loving them, but I sure don't. The only reason I even go on incessantly about Rush is because more folks seem to be fans of them.
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Catcher10
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Posted: August 11 2011 at 11:24 |
Tarkus for all its greatness, epicness, horness.......its just not that great, epic yes.....but not great. 2112 has a much better storyline than Tarkus and forget about Side 2 of this ELP release......complete rubbish! I think my needle has touched that side maybe twice in the past 20 yrs.
Because I play 2112 much more than Tarkus....Rush has my vote.
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lazland
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Posted: August 11 2011 at 11:53 |
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2112, because I prefer Rush to ELP anyday, although I am going to fulfil my longstanding promise to myself to go through my ELP collection again to see if I enjoy it anymore than I did when I last listened years ago.
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Earendil
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Posted: August 11 2011 at 12:02 |
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To me, both are pretty average, but I like Rush more overall.
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Alitare
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Posted: August 11 2011 at 12:24 |
Catcher10 wrote:
Tarkus for all its greatness, epicness, horness.......its just not that great, epic yes.....but not great. 2112 has a much better storyline than Tarkus and forget about Side 2 of this ELP release......complete rubbish! I think my needle has touched that side maybe twice in the past 20 yrs.
Because I play 2112 much more than Tarkus....Rush has my vote. |
Doesn't 2112 just have a plot stolen from Ayn Rand? Don't they butcher the philosophical aspect of it?
"oh no, I live in a magic world where music is EVIL AND ILLEGAL but I found this thing - a guitar! But the priests, they banned it and broke it, so I'm gonna go to a cave, hallucinate and kill myself!"
Some pig...er storyline.
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Mellotron Storm
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Posted: August 11 2011 at 13:51 |
Alitare wrote:
Catcher10 wrote:
Tarkus for all its greatness, epicness, horness.......its just not that great, epic yes.....but not great. 2112 has a much better storyline than Tarkus and forget about Side 2 of this ELP release......complete rubbish! I think my needle has touched that side maybe twice in the past 20 yrs.
Because I play 2112 much more than Tarkus....Rush has my vote. |
Doesn't 2112 just have a plot stolen from Ayn Rand? Don't they butcher the philosophical aspect of it?
"oh no, I live in a magic world where music is EVIL AND ILLEGAL but I found this thing - a guitar! But the priests, they banned it and broke it, so I'm gonna go to a cave, hallucinate and kill myself!"
Some pig...er storyline. |
Inspired by Ayn Rand is probably more accurate. I have a hard time beliving Neil Peart would have butchered this in any way.But then i'm far from an expert on this concept or the novel that Rand wrote.
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"The wind is slowly tearing her apart"
"Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN
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rushfan4
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Posted: August 11 2011 at 14:05 |
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My user name isn't ELPFan4 and my vote goes where one would expect it to go. Ironically, I am listening to Tarkus as I type this and it is a very enjoyable album; even side B, but it isn't Rush.
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thehallway
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Posted: August 11 2011 at 14:36 |
What's all this about horns? There are no horns on Tarkus. Hammond, Moog, bass and drums all the way.... with sparse piano and that guitar solo.
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rdtprog
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Posted: August 11 2011 at 14:36 |
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As much as i like Rush, i can't go against Tarkus. 2 verry different songs and 2 very different bands. 2112 was a breakthrough in Rush's career but not the five best songs they have made. Tarkus is my favorite of all ELP's songs.
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2112 vs. Tarkus
Just me being a fanboy. I love ELP's debut but Tarkus has never clicked with me. And what do you mean "okay epic" 
