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    Posted: September 06 2011 at 15:20
I was listening to Ys and this thought came to my mind.
Despite the obvious differences, such as the 30 years elapsed between them or one being focussed on keyboards and the other on guitar, am I the only one finding a connection between this album and The Mars Volta?
The somber feel, the raw agression of the energetic moments, the way of singing of Gianni Leone, the insanity of the music...
 
I'm not familiar with the whole TMV discography but I feel like Ys sounds like a grandparent to Deloused in the Comatorium or Frances The Mute, but certainly I may have been allucinating Shocked


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I know where you're coming from, they do share a certain wild streak.
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Don't hear anything in common. TMV was a direct continuation of At The Drive-In at their most experimental.
 
 
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Originally posted by zravkapt zravkapt wrote:

Don't hear anything in common. TMV was a direct continuation of At The Drive-In at their most experimental.
 
 

Om my god, i haven't heard that ATDI song yet. It's awesome! And intro its pretty cool too. Thanks LOL

In my opinion, the biggest influence on TMV is King Crimson. I think most can agree. 
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Originally posted by zravkapt zravkapt wrote:

Don't hear anything in common. TMV was a direct continuation of At The Drive-In at their most experimental.
  
 
Well that's kind of unfair, sure enough ATDI are a precursor to TMV !
 
I was talking about a much more indirect, subtle and unexpectable connection, IBDB and TMV have absolutely nothing to do with each other, and yet I perceived something in common. Never mind...
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dellinger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 06 2011 at 21:52
I had somewhat thought about it too. I was even tempted to showing YS to the person that showed me The Mars Volta albums, but never came to doing it.
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I can see it, yeah. Nothing massively obvious, but it's there for me
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Hadn't even thought of that! I've loved Ys from the first listen but never got into TMV. I should try again!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Guldbamsen Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 13 2011 at 12:01
I kind of get what you´re saying - just like I think this Alrune Rod album from 70 sounds like a heavy psychedelic precursor of Ys:



I´m pretty sure that Il Balletto di Bronzo hadn´t heard about Alrune Rod´s album though.
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Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

I kind of get what you´re saying - just like I think this Alrune Rod album from 70 sounds like a heavy psychedelic precursor of Ys:



I´m pretty sure that Il Balletto di Bronzo hadn´t heard about Alrune Rod´s album though.


Oooh, thanks for the tip, Guldbamsen - will definitely order Hej Du one day
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Guldbamsen Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 14 2011 at 09:34
^You´re quite welcome Zorro - I´m always up for a good recommendation - especially if I happen to love the records myself. This one in particular is my all-time favorite psychedelic prog album to come out of my homeland. My favorite psychedelic album altogether is HIP by Steppeulvene, but you´ll have to have an understanding of our language, humor and society to "get" it. 
The singer Eik Skaløe wrote lyrics inspired from both Herman Hesse´s Steppenwolf and Bob Dylan, but in a very unorthodox and original way. He IS the king inside Danish rock poetry. He disappeared long time ago though - maybe around 68, and was last seen on the border between Nepal and India, if my memory serves me right. There has been many speculations as to what actually happened to him, but many seem to think that he probably died from drugs, which he unfortunately had acquired a taste for.
His old buddy and guitarist for the group Stig Møller still sings his songs today, and nearly everyone around here knows the lyrics. 
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