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How I always called Queen was this: "A great rock band that could be the 70s Beatles(Pink Floyd is also a contender) with progressive elements." It was the 70s most of the great rock acts of the 70s had Progressive elements in their music

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A lot of comments I'm reading about Queen having a lot of filler tracks on each album.  For those who think so, what are such tracks for you?

I only own the first five (I've got the Amazon box set vol.2 in my shopping cart, so will be getting albums 6 through 10 soon)

Queen (debut).
I love, love this album and listen to it all the way through most times.  Only "The Night Comes Down/Modern Times Rock N Roll" is a slight dip in the flow.

Queen II
Same as above. "Some Day One Day" is okay, but I never skip it.

Sheer Heart Attack
I rarely listen to this one. Just can't get into it. So no comment.

A Night At the Opera
No filler. A perfect album from start to finish and somewhere in my top 20 albums of all time!

A Day At the Races
Near perfect, like the first two albums. Most songs are good to my ears. "You and I" bores me a bit.


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^ Really surprised you don't like Sheer Heart Attack. For me it's their one 'no flaws perfect  5 star album'
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Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

^ Really surprised you don't like Sheer Heart Attack. For me it's their one 'no flaws perfect  5 star album'


I think I'll give it another try after I am completely worn-out with the other four. Most people have good things to say about it, plus it has "Killer Queen" which means I'll be reaching for the CD again sooner than later.

For some reason it didn't grab me on the first and second spins, maybe it'll be a grower for me.
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Queen is as progressive as Deep Purple or Uriah Heep:: they are not prog in general sense, but have some outstanding tracks (which can be called "prog" ) , and also had influence to some prog musicians

p.s Innuendo is prog song, also one seasoned prog musician played "Spanish guitar" interlude in it



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^ they have loads of 'outstanding tracks' most of which are not remotely prog (and I love em allWink)
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Bosh66 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 14 2011 at 10:34
Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

^ they have loads of 'outstanding tracks' most of which are not remotely prog (and I love em allWink)
 
Very true. They also have many tracks covering pretty much all abums which are prog. I love Innuendo but it's not the first progressive recording they made since 1976 as many seem to think (imho of course)
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Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:



BTW I love Queen but don't feel the need to qualify their credentials of excellence as being 'Prog' to legitimise their worth


Yes, so true. I hate seeing it everywhere on here. Especially with The Beatles and Led Zeppelin. Who needs to be so elitist that they have to qualify everything they like as Prog in some way? grrr
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Originally posted by catfood03 catfood03 wrote:

Sheer Heart Attack
I rarely listen to this one. Just can't get into it. So no comment.
 
Indeed you should give it another try, i find it great. Flick of the Wrist, Lilly Of The Valley and the 2 In The Lap Of The Gods are some of their most non-famous songs and soooo good !
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Originally posted by Gerinski Gerinski wrote:

Originally posted by catfood03 catfood03 wrote:

Sheer Heart Attack
I rarely listen to this one. Just can't get into it. So no comment.
 
Indeed you should give it another try, i find it great. Flick of the Wrist, Lilly Of The Valley and the 2 In The Lap Of The Gods are some of their most non-famous songs and soooo good !


Agree. It's a very strange album, and so it took me a long time to get into it, but now it's among my favorites.
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Progressive in terms of worst possible taste maybe
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Originally posted by FunkyHomoSapien FunkyHomoSapien wrote:

Progressive in terms of worst possible taste maybe


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Originally posted by topographicbroadways topographicbroadways wrote:

Originally posted by FunkyHomoSapien FunkyHomoSapien wrote:

Progressive in terms of worst possible taste maybe


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One of my favorite zombie horses is back to eat our brains. So I will get my favorite whacking stick to beat it as I have before...

...With all the nonsense that passes muster in crossover, Queen not passing as at least that, is a bit of a stain to the sites credibility. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote jean-marie Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 15 2011 at 18:07
Not always but Queen has some realy prog pieces, it's a fact, love that band
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Originally posted by topographicbroadways topographicbroadways wrote:

Originally posted by FunkyHomoSapien FunkyHomoSapien wrote:

Progressive in terms of worst possible taste maybe


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Originally posted by jean-marie jean-marie wrote:

Not always but [insert prog band of choice] has some realy prog pieces, it's a fact, love that band


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Originally posted by FunkyHomoSapien FunkyHomoSapien wrote:

Progressive in terms of worst possible taste maybe
Surely you realise that bad taste goes with the territory? Queen are too intelligent not to know that themselves - it's deliberate, Freddie being provocative as usual.
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Originally posted by rogerthat rogerthat wrote:

I see no issue in calling Queen PR if Tori is crossover. Tongue  The problem might simply be that Queen was and is already very well known as one of the top hard rock acts of the 70s and reclassifying them for the sake of this website seems superfluous.  As for being progressive, I think Sparks should get some of the credit that is generally reserved for Queen because they did this whole glam rock with faux-operatic vocals thing, AND anticipated New Wave, AND did it a whole lot more effectively than Queen.  As much as I like Queen, most of their memorable tracks are pastiches.
 
Kimono My House ... and yeah ... both bands are very good! But 10CC would get the vocal credits before both of these!
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Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

^ They could conceivably come up with a genre description for every rock song ever written but it wouldn't make Queen any more Progressive Rock than eclectic.

BTW I love Queen but don't feel the need to qualify their credentials of excellence as being 'Prog' to legitimise their worth
 
Yeah ... and I'm sure they wouldn't need Prog Archives to tell them what their music was about, either!
 
A proggier bassist? ... wow ... how many Chris Squire clones do we need? ... good Frupcking gracious ... that is more pretentious than a lot of other comments here! ... and they say we're pretentious! No wonder with comments like that!
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