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Poll Question: Will there ever be another world war? (WWIII)
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    Posted: September 17 2011 at 01:31
Simple question. Just out of curiosity. I really think it's highly unlikely, at least not one centered on US-Europe as in the past two... Opinions?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 17 2011 at 01:41
Ever is a long time. I think it's very unlikely in the foreseeable future, though.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 17 2011 at 01:57
Not anytime soon. Wars are fought between nations and thanks to the European Union and global capitalism there are not many left. Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 17 2011 at 02:01
If there is, it won't be called WWIII. It'd be too cliche at this point.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 17 2011 at 02:05
Originally posted by Vompatti Vompatti wrote:

Not anytime soon. Wars are fought between nations and thanks to the European Union and global capitalism there are not many left. Smile

What? That is not even remotely true.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 17 2011 at 02:11
Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Originally posted by Vompatti Vompatti wrote:

Not anytime soon. Wars are fought between nations and thanks to the European Union and global capitalism there are not many left. Smile

What? That is not even remotely true.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 17 2011 at 02:12
Are there even wars anymore? Everything is just 'conflicts' now.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 17 2011 at 02:26
It's just a matter of time (but I hope it will be a long time) Stern Smile.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 17 2011 at 02:50
I think its highly unlikely we will ever see a WWIII.......besides nobody has any money to fight such a war.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 17 2011 at 05:55
Count on it.  In our lifetime.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 17 2011 at 06:25
Probably yes. Unfortunately, as long as ideology is so divisive around the world and there is the insistence that one ideology is "better" than others, the potential for a massive war is possible. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 17 2011 at 06:31
Originally posted by yanch yanch wrote:

Probably yes. Unfortunately, as long as ideology is so divisive around the world and there is the insistence that one ideology is "better" than others, the potential for a massive war is possible. 

I have trouble believing that you honestly believe all ideas are equal.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 17 2011 at 06:42
I don't think he does (another idea). Maybe he believes that the expectations and consequent actions engendered by the attainment of differing goals have shaped the types of confrontation we encounter today. The camoflague of the term 'ideas' will never disguise or democratise the underlying reason for conflict: morality. (and I suspect you know this)


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 17 2011 at 06:51
The idea of a global conflict happening nowadays seems rather dubious. It would need an open opposition between nations or alliances of nations able to find a reason to fight against each other.

In fact, I have some "scenarios" about it, but I'm not sure everyone would see my theories about the separation of European Union, a war between Russia and a European-Mediterranean union including Turkey, a Pan-Arabic democratical federation, an undercover economical war between China and India becoming an open conflict... as very serious.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 17 2011 at 07:57
Some say the cold war was WW III so the question is will #4 happen?  Perhaps we already have that in the so called global war on terrorism.  So who needs a world war when that one is neverending?


Edited by Slartibartfast - September 17 2011 at 07:58
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 17 2011 at 08:10
Probably not, although if there were, it wont be the kind of conflict we feared throughout the cold war, and it will never be referred to by our leaders as a 'world war'

Such terms are slowly being erased from the 'news speak' dictionary, along with 'economic depression'

As H.G Wells wrote in his book "The New World Order" the only way to avoid another world war is to bring the world under a system of global governance, with one world bank, one language, one religion, one army. He wrote "many will oppose the new world order, and will die protesting it" If there was a shred of truth in Wells' vision of the future, the one world army (NATO?) will actually be in a constant state of war, with countries who don't want to sign up to global governance. Peace through the simple stamping out of all those who oppose you.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 17 2011 at 08:40
 
Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

I don't think he does (another idea). Maybe he believes that the expectations and consequent actions engendered by the attainment of differing goals have shaped the types of confrontation we encounter today. The camoflague of the term 'ideas' will never disguise or democratise the underlying reason for conflict: morality. (and I suspect you know this)

Yeah, but removing morality entirely wouldn't exactly solve the problem...
 
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Some say the cold war was WW III

That would be silly since there was very little actual conflict.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 17 2011 at 08:42
^ I didn't say I was one of those who do.  In terms of the actual destruction accomplished, certainly not.  But then it depends on what you include in the cold war, what happened in Cambodia for instance was communism vs. capitalism to a certain extent.  It had genocide.  What more can you want?  The pursuit and escalation of nukeular (nuclear to most of us) weapons hasn't benefited any one other than those who made money off of producing them.  The waste products from all of that will be a danger to humanity for a long time to come even if you dismantle all the weapons.



Perhaps you over-estimate the likelihood of the world ever really being made an orderly place?

On a lighter note:



Edited by Slartibartfast - September 17 2011 at 08:52
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 17 2011 at 10:48

There will surely be a WW III, most likely centered on religion rather than political ideology.  

The more interesting question is whether there will be anything left for a WW IV.




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 17 2011 at 10:53
 
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Cambodia for instance was communism vs. capitalism to a certain extent.  It had genocide.  What more can you want?

Terrible things happening in Cambodia does not imply "world war".
  The pursuit and escalation of nukeular (nuclear to most of us) weapons hasn't benefited any one other than those
Quote who made money off of producing them.  The waste products from all of that will be a danger to humanity for a long time to come even if you dismantle all the weapons.

Nuclear weapons are overrated.
Quote Perhaps you over-estimate the likelihood of the world ever really being made an orderly place?

Where did I say that I thought that would ever happen?
  
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