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    Posted: September 24 2011 at 15:50
Originally posted by SMSM

Originally posted by Andyman1125

^You may want to read the last 6 pages of discussion. 
 
I did and gave equal thought and consideration to all opinions expressed. Sorry if yours was not given a higher preference

No, it's that it seemed to me that you reiterated the whole thread.
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Originally posted by Andyman1125

^You may want to read the last 6 pages of discussion. 
 
I did and gave equal thought and consideration to all opinions expressed. Sorry if yours was not given a higher preference
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Andy Webb Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 23 2011 at 18:57
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lol this whoe doument leak was bogus what even more funnyer people defending he went to berklee anyone can get the fat butt into berklee look at rudess juliard 1 out of 10 people get in there.6 out 10 get into berklee do the math here who is better musican rudess is

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Originally posted by rdtprog

Ouch!Ouch I didn't think that my orginal post would have create such reaction, so quickly. Mike's is getting beating up pretty badly here, i hope he doesn't read too much  this forum., because he is going to sued us all...Wink



You posted something about someone involved with DT. This result should be expected.

Maybe part of the reason MP's head has gone screwy is because he thinks he is god...which is too be expected when a cult of fans takes a good drummer and makes him one Wink

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Ouch!Ouch I didn't think that my orginal post would have create such reaction, so quickly. Mike's is getting beating up pretty badly here, i hope he doesn't read too much  this forum., because he is going to sued us all...Wink



You posted something about someone involved with DT. This result should be expected.

Maybe part of the reason MP's head has gone screwy is because he thinks he is god...which is too be expected when a cult of fans takes a good drummer and makes him one Wink

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Post Options Post Options   Quote JJLehto Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 23 2011 at 17:21
Seems like it's true.

Sheesh this is really getting sad for Mike.
Not that I feel bad for him, quite the opposite actually.
Increasingly sounding like his is just a...well lots of things I wont say.

Though it's good for DT fans he was out of after all. He would've been the end of the band.


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Originally posted by scepter

lol this whoe doument leak was bogus what even more funnyer people defending he went to berklee anyone can get the fat butt into berklee look at rudess juliard 1 out of 10 people get in there.6 out 10 get into berklee do the math here who is better musican rudess is

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Originally posted by scepter

lol this whoe doument leak was bogus what even more funnyer people defending he went to berklee anyone can get the fat butt into berklee look at rudess juliard 1 out of 10 people get in there.

6 out 10 get into berklee do the math here who is better musican rudess is


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According to Courthouse News Service, ex-DREAM THEATER drummerMike Portnoy filed a lawsuit against his former bandmates in April claiming that they "wrongfully excluded" him from the group and are "wrongfully using the name of the band in connection with [their] recording of an album without the participation or consent of [Portnoy]." In addition, the drummer's complaint, which was filed on April 27, alleges that the defendants — John Petrucci (guitar), John Myung (bass), Jordan Rudess (keyboards), James LaBrie (vocals), along with associated companies Ytse Jam, Inc. and Infinity Tours, Inc. — "are wrongfully using the name of the band in connection with the promotion of live performances by the individual defendants, without the participation or consent of [Portnoy]."
 
DT have a right to exclude persons from their band and to use the name Dream Theater in recording subsequent albums and live performances.
 
Portnoy was part of the band, but the whole band itself
 
Sounds like Portnoy is make some $$$ trying to get an out of court settlement so more $$$ won't go to pay future costs of lawyers who will probably get 90% of the settlement
 

 
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Originally posted by Deathrabbit

Good God, please proofread your posts and use some capital letters for Christ's sake!

Or even better, just don't even post if that's all you have to contribute...
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Good God, please proofread your posts and use some capital letters for Christ's sake!
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lol this whoe doument leak was bogus what even more funnyer people defending he went to berklee anyone can get the fat butt into berklee look at rudess juliard 1 out of 10 people get in there.

6 out 10 get into berklee do the math here who is better musican rudess is
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Siloportem Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 21 2011 at 13:36
In 20 years Portnoy will be touring the 12 step suite. And the audience will be ecstatic when Petrucci shows up and plays one little solo one night. It'll be a surprise event.
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Fair enough.
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Originally posted by infandous

Portnoy wanted a break, the band didn't.  He decided to leave, they were shocked and probably a little hurt.  I think it's easy to see that both he and the band had a bit of hurt because of each other.  With a band like DT, lawyers would absolutely have to get involved in any member leaving at this point, as it is a business enterprise.  Mike does seem to whine a bit more in public than he should, but of course that is just the opinion of those of us who know absolutely nothing about what went on behind the scenes.  I am not at all surprised that people here would jump to conclusions and pile on Portnoy......that is pretty much how it goes around here, lots of insignificant people thinking their opinions somehow matter because they can type them on an obscure forum (which this is...........and I include myself in the above description, obviously).

Personally, I say cut the guy some slack.  He's more successful than probably anyone on this board will ever have the talent or work ethic to be (I know, judgmental.......but honestly, are there any people posting here that can match his popularity, body of work, success in life, etc?).  The simple fact is none of us knows the whole story, and making assumptions........well, I think we all know what that gets us Wink
All of the absolute worst things in the world could happen to MP, and I STILL don't think he should whine as much as he does to the public.  He's still a crybaby. And no, I don't think my opinion matters, but I have freedom to express it, so I do. It does not make one insignificant.

And I don't really see how successful he is factors into anything. He's still an ass. Just because he's a success doesn't magically erase anything about him. But it's true, we don't know the whole story. But we don't need to to know he's hungry for attention and sympathy, while he's already taken a couple veiled shots at the band and tried to make up BS excuses for them, whilst later being a complete hypocrite.


Fair enough, we are entitled to our opinions and we come on here for the sole purpose of airing them.  Portony has probably more ways to get his side of the story across than we do to voice our opinions of the situation.  And I did say I think he whines more in public than he should.  Still, I understand his desire to protect his reputation and his livelihood.



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Originally posted by infandous

Portnoy wanted a break, the band didn't.  He decided to leave, they were shocked and probably a little hurt.  I think it's easy to see that both he and the band had a bit of hurt because of each other.  With a band like DT, lawyers would absolutely have to get involved in any member leaving at this point, as it is a business enterprise.  Mike does seem to whine a bit more in public than he should, but of course that is just the opinion of those of us who know absolutely nothing about what went on behind the scenes.  I am not at all surprised that people here would jump to conclusions and pile on Portnoy......that is pretty much how it goes around here, lots of insignificant people thinking their opinions somehow matter because they can type them on an obscure forum (which this is...........and I include myself in the above description, obviously).

Personally, I say cut the guy some slack.  He's more successful than probably anyone on this board will ever have the talent or work ethic to be (I know, judgmental.......but honestly, are there any people posting here that can match his popularity, body of work, success in life, etc?).  The simple fact is none of us knows the whole story, and making assumptions........well, I think we all know what that gets us Wink
All of the absolute worst things in the world could happen to MP, and I STILL don't think he should whine as much as he does to the public.  He's still a crybaby. And no, I don't think my opinion matters, but I have freedom to express it, so I do. It does not make one insignificant.

And I don't really see how successful he is factors into anything. He's still an ass. Just because he's a success doesn't magically erase anything about him. But it's true, we don't know the whole story. But we don't need to to know he's hungry for attention and sympathy, while he's already taken a couple veiled shots at the band and tried to make up BS excuses for them, whilst later being a complete hypocrite.


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Portnoy wanted a break, the band didn't.  He decided to leave, they were shocked and probably a little hurt.  I think it's easy to see that both he and the band had a bit of hurt because of each other.  With a band like DT, lawyers would absolutely have to get involved in any member leaving at this point, as it is a business enterprise.  Mike does seem to whine a bit more in public than he should, but of course that is just the opinion of those of us who know absolutely nothing about what went on behind the scenes.  I am not at all surprised that people here would jump to conclusions and pile on Portnoy......that is pretty much how it goes around here, lots of insignificant people thinking their opinions somehow matter because they can type them on an obscure forum (which this is...........and I include myself in the above description, obviously).

Personally, I say cut the guy some slack.  He's more successful than probably anyone on this board will ever have the talent or work ethic to be (I know, judgmental.......but honestly, are there any people posting here that can match his popularity, body of work, success in life, etc?).  The simple fact is none of us knows the whole story, and making assumptions........well, I think we all know what that gets us Wink
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Originally posted by TheClosing

Originally posted by DisgruntledPorcupine

 
I'm sorry, but you seem to have a gigantic MP bias. He's been a real a****le throughout this whole situation and deserves the flak. He's constantly playing the victim when he brings things upon himself. And about the band saying bad things about him, wow you're really trying hard to even the playing field with this one. MP himself admits that he wants to be the center of attention often. LaBrie said it as well, and it does detract from the bigger picture. Is it the bands fault that he's like this? No. Is it MPs fault he's in this situation? Yes.

Now about me loving Portnoy, I still do love his drumming and he is still amongst my favourite drummers, but I actually preferred Mangini on this album. And yeah I'll admit, he sounded like Portnoy on the album a bit, but I found Mangini showed more skill in the harder spots. Besides, John wrote all the drum parts ahead of time, so you'd think John would be used to playing with MP for 25 years and sort of gets his drumming style in his head. 

Dude, I've been ragging on Portnoy for his stage antics and tough guy vocals for years. You guys however are taking it to a whole new level by attacking his character. Look how eagerly everyone was to jump to conclusions in this thread as it was. I'm sure any attorney for someone as high profile as MP would have filed a claim like this regardless of whether MP meant to go through with it or not. No different than Petrucci's lawyer stepping in to contact MP. All I'm trying to say is, no one is exactly smelling like roses at this point, nor does anyone but the band have all the facts and even for them I'm sure it's distorted. But I guess you can't stop people from being keyboard warriors...

Any good drummer will tell you it's all about groove. You on the other hand like to talk about speed this and that. Also people like to bring up the linear fills starting on the octobans down that Mike constantly used, but they made Mangini do plenty of that as well. When it comes down to it I remember the solid grooves on tracks like Blind Faith, but can't remember jack squat of what MM played on ADToE after six or so solid listens. 
Why wouldn't we jump to conclusions? There was a court paper about it! And as I said, he brings things on himself.

And alright I understand. Your opinion is fact. I know.
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