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    Posted: June 29 2005 at 11:14
I like ELP, Yes, etc. I don't know much about American progressive rock such as Dream Theatre and Shadow Gallery (I know a bit about Spock's Beard). Can anyone recommend DT's or SG's  best albums? Thanks.

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Scenes From A Memory: Metropolis Part II is arguably Dream Theater's creative and instrumental peak.  I think it's their best, and the ratings here agree with me.

Room V is the newest Shadow Gallery album and probably their best.  It's tough to say because Carved in Stone and Tyranny are great also.
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Originally posted by Retrovertigo Retrovertigo wrote:

Scenes From A Memory: Metropolis Part II is arguably Dream Theater's creative and instrumental peak.  I think it's their best, and the ratings here agree with me.

Room V is the newest Shadow Gallery album and probably their best.  It's tough to say because Carved in Stone and Tyranny are great also.


I disagree (slightly) on DT: Awake  MIGHT be the better album, depends on your background. Awake is more diverse, also more original. Scenes is a concept album, very well structured and arranged. I prefer Awake, although I would never give away any of them (or my other DT albums, for that matter).

Regarding Shadow Gallery: Room V is their best, but you might want to start with Tyranny (which is nearly as good), because Room V is it's successor (part 2), so you can enjoy the albums in the proper chronological order.



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Shadow Gallery's entire catalogue is very good.I would start with Carved in Stone,Legacy,Tyranny and then Room V.

Dream Theater's Scenes from a Memory,A Change of Seasons(ep),Images and Words,Awake,Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence and Octavarium.

If you like DT and SG I also highly recommend Pain of Salvation,Shadow Gallery,Vanden Plas,Pagan's Mind,Andromeda,Sieges Even,Ayreon,Psychotic Waltz,Beyond Twilight,Chain,Kamelot,Evergrey,Fates Warning,Into Eternity,Ice Age,Adagio,Time Requiem...to name a few


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These are the 3 DT albums I would recommend:

*** Images and Words ***

*** Awake ***

*** Scenes From A Memory ***

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Start with "Images & Words", then get "Awake", then get "Scenes From a Memory", "Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence" etc.
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Originally posted by norbert88 norbert88 wrote:

These are the 3 DT albums I would recommend:

*** Images and Words ***

*** Awake ***

*** Scenes From A Memory ***

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 Perfect and throw in A Change of Seasons
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If you ask me, for starters, AWAKE. Images & Words
is great for starters also (especially for Metropolis PT
1), but Awake has a unique and diverse sound from
the rest of the album, and it is Kevin Moore's best
perfomance on a DT album. After Images & Words,
go with Scenes from a Memory, you'll undersatnd
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Originally posted by Cygnus_LDS Cygnus_LDS wrote:

If you ask me, for starters, AWAKE. Images & Words
is great for starters also (especially for Metropolis PT
1), but Awake has a unique and diverse sound from
the rest of the album, and it is Kevin Moore's best
perfomance on a DT album. After Images & Words,
go with Scenes from a Memory, you'll undersatnd
why.

That is exactly the sequence that I would have suggested.
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Originally posted by norbert88 norbert88 wrote:

These are the 3 DT albums I would recommend:

*** Images and Words ***

*** Awake ***

*** Scenes From A Memory ***

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Originally posted by King of Loss King of Loss wrote:

Originally posted by norbert88 norbert88 wrote:

These are the 3 DT albums I would recommend:

*** Images and Words ***

*** Awake ***

*** Scenes From A Memory ***

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 Perfect and throw in A Change of Seasons

Replace "Scenes..." with "Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence"
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Dream Theater- Scenes From A Memory and imegas...
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Originally posted by Manunkind Manunkind wrote:

Originally posted by King of Loss King of Loss wrote:

Originally posted by norbert88 norbert88 wrote:

These are the 3 DT albums I would recommend:

*** Images and Words ***

*** Awake ***

*** Scenes From A Memory ***

norbert88

 Perfect and throw in A Change of Seasons

Replace "Scenes..." with "Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence"

naaaaaaaaaah!!!!!! Its perfect!!!
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Originally posted by Ed_The_Dead Ed_The_Dead wrote:

Originally posted by Manunkind Manunkind wrote:

Originally posted by King of Loss King of Loss wrote:

Originally posted by norbert88 norbert88 wrote:

These are the 3 DT albums I would recommend:

*** Images and Words ***

*** Awake ***

*** Scenes From A Memory ***

norbert88

 Perfect and throw in A Change of Seasons

Replace "Scenes..." with "Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence"

naaaaaaaaaah!!!!!! Its perfect!!!

It's got some of DT's best work, but also some of its worst. Very, very inconsistent.
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Dream Theatre - any recommendations

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Points: 32995 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 01 2005 at 12:13
Originally posted by Manunkind Manunkind wrote:

Originally posted by Ed_The_Dead Ed_The_Dead wrote:

Originally posted by Manunkind Manunkind wrote:

Originally posted by King of Loss King of Loss wrote:

Originally posted by norbert88 norbert88 wrote:

These are the 3 DT albums I would recommend:

*** Images and Words ***

*** Awake ***

*** Scenes From A Memory ***

norbert88

 Perfect and throw in A Change of Seasons

Replace "Scenes..." with "Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence"

naaaaaaaaaah!!!!!! Its perfect!!!

It's got some of DT's best work, but also some of its worst. Very, very inconsistent.

Are you saying that "Scenes" is inconsistant? You're kidding right?
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Dream Theater: Just buy 'em all.

Shadow Gallery:  I don't have any......maybe I should get some.



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Originally posted by Arsillus Arsillus wrote:

Shadow Gallery:  I don't have any......maybe I should get some.

Good Idea ... if at all possible, you should try to get the Room V limited edition, because there's an excellent 25 minute Pink Floyd medley on the bonus disc. Of course, if you don't like PF, you can choose any other disc ... but Room V is their best work so far.
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Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by Manunkind Manunkind wrote:

Originally posted by Ed_The_Dead Ed_The_Dead wrote:

Originally posted by Manunkind Manunkind wrote:

Originally posted by King of Loss King of Loss wrote:

Originally posted by norbert88 norbert88 wrote:


These are the 3 DT albums I would recommend:


*** Images and Words ***


*** Awake ***


*** Scenes From A Memory ***


norbert88



Perfect and throw in A Change of Seasons



Replace "Scenes..." with "Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence"



naaaaaaaaaah!!!!!! Its perfect!!!



It's got some of DT's best work, but also some of its worst. Very, very inconsistent.



Are you saying that "Scenes" is inconsistant? You're kidding right?



I agree with anyone who says "Scenes" is problematic. For me it's derivative, incoherent garbage. One of the biggest reasons for its success was that a lot of people were disappointed in the commercial and unimaginative direction DT took with "Falling into Infinity" and that DT announced that the next album was going to be a "back to the roots" ("back to images") album, the most 'progressive' thing they ever did. Before the album was released everybody knew that it's going to be a classic, and everybody knew that they'll love it. (How to create a piece of art in the public consciousness, Lesson One: ... )

Oh well, I just abhor 90 % of this overhyped, badly produced, patchy, incoherent collection of rehashed fragments with its schoolboy lyrics. The only song worth listening to is "Strange Deja Vu" although it could never have been written outside a prog history full of Kansas. Apart from some Marillion albums it's the biggest prog disappointment ever. For me. People will love it of course (and nobody knows why).

(And no, I'm not a DT hater. I really, really like the stuff they did with Kevin Moore, some of the Sherinian stuff and the fat rehash of "Master of Puppets" on "Train of Thought".)
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