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Logan
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Posted: October 24 2011 at 13:58 |
Saperlipopette! wrote:
Logan wrote:
I have been really back into Kayo Dot after the modern band championship poll, and am voting for Choirs of the Eye over K.A. Much as I like K.A., I do find CotE a better and more satisfying album. K.A. I
find lacking, cliche for a Magma fan (quite formulaic), and even quite
cliche for a Prog fan generally. I finding it lacking in textures,
nuance and, I don't usually this word for music, but lacking in emotion
or mood, and rather dull -- feels. Unlike most, I like the "K.A II"
track the most. Of modern Magma albums, I prefer E-Re by a wide margin, partially because of Christian Vander's exuberance in the "Hhai" and related part.
While I can understand the excitement of K.A.'s
arrival, taken on it's own, it is to me, to use a word many hate,
Magma's most overrated studio album. |
In full agreement with this. I find it a complete mystery that K.A
actually is the highest rated, and the second most rated Magma
studioalbum on PA. I have a hard time listening all the way through the
third part, which has a kind of glorious finale of a christian rock
opera/musical (of unaturally high quality) feel to it. Still the second
best album of this lot, no doubt.
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I'm not surprised, I think it is the one that would be the most accessible to Progheads generally and I belive that quite a few liked and reviewed it who are not into, well, the kinds of related music that we like. I rather feel like Vander wanted to make an album that would not only appease Magma's fans but would find success amongst people into Prog generally (not the first time Magma has gone for accessible, but he went way too far with Ooh, ooh Baby before and alienated people -- I enjoy that in a humorous way, btw) The third piece, in particular, I feel to be very Prog cliche. It's noodly, rocky, and very bombastic. I think the Flower Kings might enjoy it. For a band that plays RIO concerts, I think it's a pretty mainstream album (mainstream in a Prog context). I really do find the album pretty superficial and formulaic. I mostly loved it when I got it, but it did not hold my interest that long on the whole. BTW, not worth arguing semantics, much better to explore bigger picture ideas in dialogue than get word-picky, but I don't find ther use of mystery derogatory., and use that and similar expressions in the same way. But different people use language differently, and their own idiom to the table.... Communication can be very clunky. By the way, if I were to choose three fave Magma studio albums, by the way, they would be Kobaia, 1001 Degress Centigrade, and Wurdah Itah.
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Just a fanboy passin' through.
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Gandalff
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Posted: October 25 2011 at 02:03 |
Well, this poll has been closed with following results:
"Frances The Mute" by The Mars Volta 5 "Choirs Of The Eye" by Kayo Dot 10 "In Absentia" by Porcupine Tree 15 "K.A" by Magma 7 "Lateralus" by Tool 7 "Magnification" by Yes 3 "Marbles" by Marillion 9 "Paradox Hotel" by The Flower Kings 2 "Part The Second" by Maudlin Of The Well 7 "Remedy Lane" by Pain Of Salvation 6
Red marked albums are advancing to Final Round.
Thanks for your votes!
Edited by Gandalff - October 25 2011 at 02:05
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A Elbereth Gilthoniel silivren penna míriel o menel aglar elenath! Na-chaered palan-díriel o galadhremmin ennorath, Fanuilos, le linnathon nef aear, sí nef aearon!
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The-time-is-now
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Posted: October 25 2011 at 11:24 |
Magnification. Even if it's too late.
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One of my best achievements in life was to find this picture :D
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Horizons
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Posted: October 25 2011 at 15:44 |
Perfect results.
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Crushed like a rose in the riverflow.
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Thandrus
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Posted: October 26 2011 at 20:57 |
Magnification!
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Alitare
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Posted: October 26 2011 at 21:16 |
If I'd gotten here in time I would have voted either for Part the Second or Remedy Lane. As it stands, two of my favorite post-1970's prog albums have been eliminated...by a f**kin' Porcupine Tree record?
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Horizons
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Posted: October 26 2011 at 21:17 |
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Crushed like a rose in the riverflow.
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Alitare
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Posted: October 26 2011 at 21:30 |
I don't get it at all. I've listened to In Absentia (it's okay. The pop songs are cool when they aren't ripping off Radiohead. Or maybe they're only cool when they're ripping off Radiohead, I dunno.) I've listened to every PT album at least once. When he's not stealing from Tangerine Dream (a la Zeit) he's stealing from R-head (a la OK Computer) or something. Lots of Pink Floydian water theft. I really liked parts of In Absentia. Actually, I only gave a damn about that one song "The Sound of Muzak". In fact, it's the best and only cool song he's ever done. It sounds a lot like soft Opeth, which isn't saying positive things for Opeth. Why would Mikael and his gang take cues from this guy? I gave two Opeth albums 5/5 back in the day (Ghost and Blackwater). I think I may have heavily overrated them. There's no way in hell Blackwater Park stands next to Gabriel's "Melt" in my heart. I'm too lazy to change it, though.
Why would Mikael want to make a trillion albums that all use the same basic chords (that one that makes you think of autumn leaves and stuff)? One of the blunders of the world and no one cares diddly doo de daaah dee doo.That's a catchy, interesting song, kinda like a good Anathema/Tiamat song, only Tiamat was better at moods (Wildhoney) and Anathema was better at pop-tinge (Alternative 4). Oh, did I mention "Cold Seed"? That's a really cool Tiamat song. It's a shame Wilson sings like a college hipster 'art' nerd that sucks a big floppy donkey...ear. And no one cares diddly doo.
At least he's better than that crackhead Xavier Phideaux. He sounds like a prog rock Weird Al Yankovich. Now I'll go and listen to Steve Wilson recording nine-hundred minutes of space echoes and electronically processed fart noises. It seems real exciting.
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Lark the Starless
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Posted: October 27 2011 at 11:54 |
Magnification, even if it's late
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TheMasterMofo
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Posted: October 27 2011 at 18:58 |
Remedy Lane... It's one of the best albums of all time to me.
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Nogbad_The_Bad
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Posted: October 27 2011 at 19:24 |
Magma followed by Tool & PT
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