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    Posted: June 29 2012 at 16:10
Start with "the other" smoke, that is the one making you "weak" in general.
When you are out of that one, you know how you "thing" is going. then you can decide what you want for yourself in life. ( I know this tread is old, but the advise is allways usefull to someone) 
 
NB: I def. know what im talking about here. 
 


Edited by tamijo - June 29 2012 at 16:11
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Post Options Post Options   Quote darkshade Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 29 2012 at 16:35
^ Sorry, but you clarify?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote akamaisondufromage Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 29 2012 at 16:48
Lots of good advice here Darkshade.  The most important thing is to WANT to give up.  You talk about getting through the weekend.  When I gave up I didn't 'go out' for the first couple of weekends at all.  I would advise avoiding situations where you would normally automatically reach for that packet of cigs.  You might find e cigs get you through the weekend but I havene't tried them so I don't know.  Tis useful to give your hands something to do.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote smartpatrol Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 29 2012 at 16:53
Originally posted by Horizons

No advice for you sorry, just good luck in a wonderful decision to better yourself.


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Originally posted by darkshade

^ Sorry, but you clarify?
What im saying is, as long as you smoke "the other" you are not 100% yourself, and its a lot harder to get strong.
You need to get mentaly strong, to get controll enough to quit cigs, alcohol, and get in better from.
But you also need to be mentaly strong in many other aspects in life. Thats why im saying that where you should start your effort.
You are prob. 30 years younger than I am, and we look at life in very diffrent ways.
So its very hard to explain excatly what im thinking, without talking about stuff you wont find relevant at this point.
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Step 1 - switch to smoking coffee
Step 2 - quit smoking coffee Tongue
Step 3 - etc.
Step 4 - profit


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Post Options Post Options   Quote tamijo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 29 2012 at 17:45
Originally posted by Slartibartfast

Step 1 - switch to smoking coffee
Step 2 - quit smoking coffee Tongue
Step 3 - etc.
Step 4 - profit
Confused
Not everything comes down to money.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Slartibartfast Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 29 2012 at 18:11
Originally posted by tamijo

Originally posted by Slartibartfast

Step 1 - switch to smoking coffee
Step 2 - quit smoking coffee Tongue
Step 3 - etc.
Step 4 - profit
Confused
Not everything comes down to money.

OK how about:
1. Collect underpants.
2 ?
3. Profit.
Wink


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Post Options Post Options   Quote Flyingsod Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 30 2012 at 09:24
Good luck Darkshade. Smoking is by far the most harmful of the behaviors you mention and its the best place to start IMO.

 E cigs have their own set of dangers as recently reported.  Also I don't see how they can help you quit, if your still getting your nicotine you are simply changing delivery method and not dealing with the addiction. Unless they have like differing strengths, like strong medium and mild doses of nicotine. I guess that could work like the patches or gum are supposed to work. I'm not a fan of it though, it just prolongs withdrawal symptoms in my way of thinking.

 My number one advice to you is Don't Quit Quitting.  Meaning if you end up smoking one it doesn't mean your attempt has failed. It doesn't mean start smoking full force again. It doesn't mean try again later. It simply means you are still in the process of quitting. Keep quitting.

 Another aspect is that you have to know you are going to quit. The advice that you have to want to quit is only half way there. You can't just want to quit but not be sure if you can, that's like giving yourself permission to smoke before you even start quitting. Once you KNOW you are going to quit things are a bit different. At this point any cravings you get make you realize that if you smoke another one you have to go through the craving again. If you don't smoke another one the next craving will be lessened (assuming your a day or so into the process). Once you're over the peak of cravings you realize that to smoke one now means means that at some point you WILL HAVE TO ENDURE IT ALL AGAIN.... and why waste the suffering of withdrawal you have already been through?

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Originally posted by darkshade

Trying to quit cigarette's this week. I'm on day 2, but I'm thinking about getting the e-cig at my local convenience store, just to ween me off and get through the weekend.

Even though I don't know how hard would it be to quit cigarettes, because, even though I've been smoking for some years now, I don't crave for them and I only smoke a couple or three days every two to four weeks. I can relate to your hardship, though, because my father has been trying to quit the cigs for decades with no success.

As for coffee, I don't even drink it anymore and it has made my sleeping much better.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote stonebeard Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 30 2012 at 12:43
Originally posted by Slartibartfast

Originally posted by tamijo

Originally posted by Slartibartfast

Step 1 - switch to smoking coffee
Step 2 - quit smoking coffee Tongue
Step 3 - etc.
Step 4 - profit
Confused
Not everything comes down to money.

OK how about:
1. Collect underpants.
2 ?
3. Profit.
Wink
2. Sell underpants to vending companies in Tokyo. Yes that is actually a thing.

Also, wish I could help you darkshade. I smoke occasionally and drink 3ish times a week, but I think I don't really have an addictive trait. I've never had trouble giving up either if I really wanted to.


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Post Options Post Options   Quote timothy leary Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 30 2012 at 12:46
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Post Options Post Options   Quote darkshade Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 09 2012 at 19:50
So today has been Day 2 of not smoking cigarettes. It hasn't been as bad as I remember it being last time I tried to quit.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote thellama73 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 09 2012 at 19:56
My advice is to not buy any more cigarettes. And everytime you find yourself about to buy cigarettes, don't do that instead.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Flyingsod Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 09 2012 at 20:34
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A doctor at the VA told me recently that when you quit smoking the nicotine is out of your system in three days. After that it is all habit.
Buying bulk tobacco and a pack of Zig Zags may help. I don't know how many chemical additives are in bulk tobacco but it can't be nearly as many as in manufactured cigarettes.
If all else fails, buy the movie "The Insider" with Russell Crowe and Al Pacino and watch it every day.
As for the herb....why would you want to give that up?
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The herb can cause you to smoke more cigs, depending on the individual though. It has been an addictive pattern with others. When I quit, a problem developed around me. Depending on what is defined as a problem becoming mine or other's around me at the time. I had made up my mind and through the course of time friends observing that I had quit, decided to have a field day with the realization. They always had something to say, whether it being supportive or non-supportive , after a while you just feel like telling everyone to buzz off. Unfortunately, some people are jealous of your will power and they react like children. They make attempts to bust on you. This is where you have to put up a solid wall and I do mean solid! They still smoke and you don't. It creates a threat or disappointment in their lives. You have to read between the lines to understand it. Otherwise you may start to believe that YOU are the one who is paranoid? But, don't sell yourself short. People will begin to bust your nuts once they discover your power to give up smoking. That alone can develop into  far worse agony than the quitting itself. I remember Jim Morrison stating that when people joke around, they are actually serious and when they are being serious they come across as being funny. To a degree, I agree with this and especially when you're in a situation that I've just explained. It is possible that people joke around just to get away with saying something personal and offensive. In that case, the joke is an excuse for them to attack someone, (such as an x-smoker), and it is excused by a majority of individuals around you. Eventually they will become jaded and stop their annoying remarks. There may be a few who never learn and so be it. This was the issue that developed with me because I was unfortunately around a lot of people. I still quit. 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote darkshade Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 10 2012 at 21:24
^ Thank you, sir, for that great advice. I can already picture a couple of individuals I know who would react by being non-supportive and taking jabs. I will keep this in mind whenever I eventually see them. They might surprise me and actually be supportive, but we'll see.

As far as the herb, I'll be working on that very soon, as I'm finishing up my third day, and the toxins from the cigarettes should be out of my system by tomorrow. I've been drinking a lot less coffee since I quit, too.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote stonebeard Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 10 2012 at 21:56
If I could in some way infuse smoke into the Irish coffee I'm drinking now, I would have some odd addiction trifecta going.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Cristi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 10 2012 at 22:04
Originally posted by thellama73

My advice is to not buy any more cigarettes. And everytime you find yourself about to buy cigarettes, don't do that instead.

dumbest advice I've ever read on quitting smoking; it's not funny if you were trying to make a joke. 
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