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Sean Trane
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Topic: Gnidrolog Posted: March 15 2006 at 03:48 |
greenback wrote:
never heard that band |
Your mistake
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let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword
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greenback
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Posted: March 14 2006 at 13:29 |
never heard that band
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[HEADPINS - LINE OF FIRE: THE RECORD HAVING THE MOST POWERFUL GUITAR SOUND IN THE WHOLE HISTORY OF MUSIC!>
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timothy leary
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Posted: March 12 2006 at 22:22 |
I really like the music but my theory is nobody could pronounce trieh nmae
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Trotsky
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Posted: March 12 2006 at 22:08 |
Well views on Gnosis differ ... Erik for example seems quite fond of it
... whereas I found it to be immensely disappointing ... to me it's a
74 minute album that's quite a chore to listen to ... not particularly
progressive either ...
The first two studio albums on the other hand ... brilliant stuff ...
I was teaching my son to sing along to Ship yesterday ... IMO,
Gnidrolog's most beautiful song ... even if I Could Never Be A Soldier
is their most powerful
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Rocktopus
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Posted: March 12 2006 at 04:17 |
[/QUOTE]
Four tracks on it and three from a studio session of 71, but the
fourth track is 69 version of one of those tracks. But yes, just about
as good as the rest of that debut album.
As I said elsewhere In Spite is ultimately more rewarding [/QUOTE]
I should have guessed they were good just by looking at the bonus
track's titles. And I felt so lucky finding both albums on one CD. Well
I still do, actually. I might not have bought it otherwise, since I'd
only heard one song by then.
Sorry, I missed the part about you also finding 'In Spite' more
rewarding. More important is that Gnidrolog deserves attention for the
two essential studio albums they made.
And from what I've read in this thread, a great live album.
(Haven't heard 'Gnosis', but its probably not essential?)
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erik neuteboom
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Posted: March 11 2006 at 15:00 |
Well, Trouserpress, your thread ring a pleasant bell!
In 1999 I attented the annual Dutch progrock festival Progfarm and witnessed a performance by the twin-brothers Colin and Stewart Goldring with their band Gnidrolog. I was impressed by their skills and their typical British humor! After their concert I approached them and soon a very vivid conversation started. They told me about the time (around 1970) that Gnidrolog made their albums and frequently did gigs. This often happened in the same venues as early Pink Floyd, Genesis, King Crimson, The Nice and Yes. Enthousiasticly Colin and Stewart told us how many times they had seen these bands in their early years and even one time Genesis turned out to be their support-act because Gnidrolog was way more known than Genesis in that time! The twin-brothers were so glad with all the attention and praise they recieved this evening in Holland that they decided to make a new CD, here it is.
Short review Gnosis: It opens with "Reach For Tomorrow", this one has a lot of tension between the Jewish vocals and a wide range of instruments, very original! The other tracks delives a lot of variety: folk with acoustic guitar and flute ("Deventer" a tribute to the Dutch band Lady Lake, named after their debut LP), no-nonsense rock in "Reverend Katz" (fiery guitar), "King of rock" and "Gnosis" (fine howling guitar), lap- steel-guitar in "Fall to ground" and progrock with Australian didgederoo in "Woolunga" and "Bells of Prozac". This is a fine album for the more adventurous and open-minded progheads, it sounds very pleasant and varied.
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ChadFromCanada
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Posted: March 11 2006 at 14:47 |
Rocktopus wrote:
I've got 'In Spite...' and 'Lady Lake' on a split CD, and they are both fantastic!
But I seem to be alone in preferring the former. Just a bit more edge,
original ideas, arrangements and better songs than the latter, imo. 'In
Spite...' is the one that goes into my prog top 20. An underrated album
of an underrated band.
Never heard the bonus tracks. Are the songs as good as the ones on the original album?
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I've heard that split album CD. They sounded pretty good.
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Sean Trane
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Posted: March 11 2006 at 13:11 |
Rocktopus wrote:
I've got 'In Spite...' and 'Lady Lake' on a split CD, and they are both fantastic!
But I seem to be alone in preferring the former. Just a bit more edge, original ideas, arrangements and better songs than the latter, imo. 'In Spite...' is the one that goes into my prog top 20. An underrated album of an underrated band.
Never heard the bonus tracks. Are the songs as good as the ones on the original album?
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Four tracks on it and three from a studio session of 71, but the fourth track is 69 version of one of those tracks. But yes, just about as good as the rest of that debut album.
As I said elsewhere In Spite is ultimately more rewarding
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let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword
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Rocktopus
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Posted: March 11 2006 at 04:42 |
I've got 'In Spite...' and 'Lady Lake' on a split CD, and they are both fantastic!
But I seem to be alone in preferring the former. Just a bit more edge,
original ideas, arrangements and better songs than the latter, imo. 'In
Spite...' is the one that goes into my prog top 20. An underrated album
of an underrated band.
Never heard the bonus tracks. Are the songs as good as the ones on the original album?
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The Hemulen
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Posted: February 08 2006 at 08:44 |
Sean Trane wrote:
Trouserpress wrote:
Note: And if you've ticked off In Spite of Harry's Toenail AND Lady Lake, where's left to go?
You won't be disappointed. Energetic, entertaining performances all round and some classic non-album material to boot! Get this before Gnosis.
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excellent recommendation if it comes with a warning of poor sound quality
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Ah yes, the sound quality. TBH, I never notice when I'm about 3 minutes in as the music's just tooo damn gooood.
Edited by Trouserpress
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Sean Trane
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Posted: February 08 2006 at 08:42 |
Trouserpress wrote:
Note: And if you've ticked off In Spite of Harry's Toenail AND Lady Lake, where's left to go?
You won't be disappointed. Energetic, entertaining performances all round and some classic non-album material to boot! Get this before Gnosis.
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excellent recommendation if it comes with a warning of poor sound quality
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let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword
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The Hemulen
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Posted: February 08 2006 at 08:11 |
Note: And if you've ticked off In Spite of Harry's Toenail AND Lady Lake, where's left to go?
You won't be disappointed. Energetic, entertaining performances all round and some classic non-album material to boot! Get this before Gnosis.
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Baza
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Posted: February 07 2006 at 15:39 |
"Lady Lake" is a fantastic album by a great band. It is really a lost gem. I'm not sure why this band is under the "jazz-rock fusion" label, because the sound is more in the Jethro Tull-VDGG-Gentle Giant direction, and it's not similar to the other jazz fusion bands featured on this site. The first album by the band is also good, I need to hear it a couple more times to fully understand it.
I have discovered 2 great bands recently (I owe this to Hugues Chantraine's reviews) - Gnidrolog and Comus - a fantastic prog-folk band with disturbing and frightening lyrics. They also recorded only 2 albums, the first one is just a masterpiece. You can see the album cover in my logo.
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Moatilliatta
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Posted: February 07 2006 at 13:32 |
I was considering picking Lady Lake up one of these days, but it hasn't been a top priority as of yet (I have many albums on my list to buy).
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ANDREW
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Posted: February 07 2006 at 08:02 |
I have both albums in one CD (BEAT GOES ON RECORDS).
The GNIDROLOG sound was an intriguing amalgam of the melodic appeal of GENTLE GIANT, "Stand Up"-era JETHRO TULL, and much of the lyrical darkness of VAN DER GRAAF GENERATOR.
Both albums are very good, but "Lady Lake" is their masterpiece, a forgotten gem of the early seventies!!
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Sean Trane
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Posted: February 07 2006 at 06:08 |
I do agree that Lady Lake is more accessible
but please do indulge in the much heavier In Spite album
It will take you a few more listens but I do think you shall nor regret it either
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Posted: February 07 2006 at 05:58 |
Only heard Lady Lake. Kind of uneven, but the highs more than make up for the lows .
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Posted: February 07 2006 at 05:15 |
Lady Lake gets the nod over 'Harry...' One of the Goldring brothers (Colin I believe) is a friend's neighbour and the last that I heard of him,outside of music, is that he's a councillor for Lewisham County Council,SE London!
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lunaticviolist
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Posted: February 07 2006 at 00:41 |
Thanks as always for your recommendation. I checked out Jeff
Wayne's Musical War of the Worlds that you recommended on this site and
was very pleased. I'll be sure to listen to this one.
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Trotsky
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Posted: February 07 2006 at 00:39 |
I have just let my 2 albums on 1 CD In Spite Of Harry's Toenail/Lady Lake sink in ...
Lady Lake in particular is absolutely superb ... dashes of Gentle
Giant/Jethro Tull/King Crimson, but really a sound that's all their own
... Highlights for me are I Could Never Be A Soldier, Ship and the
title track ... what a pity the band collapsed after this ...
I haven't heard Gnosis (the 2000 comeback album) yet ... but am looking forward to it!
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