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Posted: March 19 2013 at 17:46
DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:
ole-the-first wrote:
I really don't understand what's there so special about Mike Oldfield. For example, talking of 'Tubular Bells', I can name really entertaining only the last few minutes of part one, but... very soon I feel that they're very repetitive. I love Oldfield's music, but to rate it over Steven Wilson's stuff is... just... obsolete.
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I very much agree. Tubular Bells is probably a 2 star album for me. Even when I was an Oldfield fan it left me cold. Guess I don't see what others do.
Tubular Bells is overloaded with ideas which are mostly great but not properly developed imo. Ommadawn was the one that blew me away on first listen and Hergest Ridge was the one that rewarded me after many plays. That said Incantations would be one of my desert island disc picks if only for the awesome Part 3.
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Posted: March 19 2013 at 16:23
never understood the hype surroudning Porcupine Tree and Steven Wilson. I saw Porcupine Tree open for Marillion, and to be honest, it bored me to death.
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Posted: March 19 2013 at 15:23
ole-the-first wrote:
I really don't understand what's there so special about Mike Oldfield. For example, talking of 'Tubular Bells', I can name really entertaining only the last few minutes of part one, but... very soon I feel that they're very repetitive. I love Oldfield's music, but to rate it over Steven Wilson's stuff is... just... obsolete.
(expecting egg-throwing )
I very much agree. Tubular Bells is probably a 2 star album for me. Even when I was an Oldfield fan it left me cold. Guess I don't see what others do.
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Posted: March 19 2013 at 13:01
Wilson has 3 albums. Oldfield has about 3 good ones, if only he had stopped after those. Oldfield was more groundbreaking, Wilson is a better judge of his own work. I'll go with Wilson
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Posted: March 19 2013 at 12:33
I really don't understand what's there so special about Mike Oldfield. For example, talking of 'Tubular Bells', I can name really entertaining only the last few minutes of part one, but... very soon I feel that they're very repetitive. I love Oldfield's music, but to rate it over Steven Wilson's stuff is... just... obsolete.
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Posted: March 18 2013 at 21:30
richardh wrote:
Dellinger wrote:
richardh wrote:
Dellinger wrote:
Lately I've been discovering and enjoying quiet a bit of Wilson and Porcupine Tree, but it will be very difficult for me to find anything as extremely beautiful as Oldfields first 4 albums.
Oh I don't know , Songs Of Distant Earth runs them close
Yeah, I forgot about that one, which is great too, of course. I guess the closest he got to the glory of his original four... together with Amarok, I guess, but I haven't heard that one yet.
Amarok tends to divide opinion as its not quite as structured as those others. I love it personally.
I'm afraid I don't know it yet, except for a small excerpt from the best of album "elements", which I really like a lot (though perhaps the "special effects" were a bit too loud). However, I'm a bit put off by the idea of it all being just one song, because it's kind of impractical. If I don't have the time to listen to the whole album in one run it can be complicated.
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Posted: March 17 2013 at 18:13
zachfive wrote:
Blacksword wrote:
... But Oldfield has produced some insipid bilge over the years too. Five miles Out is the musical equivalent of eating dry branflakes.
I implore you go and re-listen to Five Miles Out, hell just listen to Taurus II, one of Oldfields best pieces in my opinion. I also like some other his later output. I think Discovery is a solid album, as is Crisis and Earth Moving. Some real gems in those three albums; The Lake from Discovery - a great instrumental, Holy from Earth Moving with Adrian Belew on vocals, how could you not enjoy that?, and the eponymous track on Crisis as well as most of side B all are great, albeit different from his first albums, but great none the less.
I've listened to Mike Oldfields entire discography many times over, and Five Miles Out is in the Top 5 for me, easily.
I like Tauras II a lot but not much else on 5 Miles Out, to me it's behind TB, Ommadawn, Hegrest Ridge, Incantations, Amarok & Songs From A Distant Earth
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