|
Is the third wave of prog dying? |
Post Reply 
|
Page <1 567 |
| Author |
 Share Topic Printable Version Delicious Digg Facebook Furl Google Boomarks Google Buzz MySpace Newsvine reddit StumbleUpon Translate Twitter Windows Live Yahoo Bookmarks Topic Search  Topic Options
|
|
Floydian42 
Forum Senior Member 
Joined: January 13 2007 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 839 |
 Post Options
 Quote Reply
 Topic: Is the third wave of prog dying?Posted: April 26 2012 at 18:30 |
|
|
As music progresses and evolves, the influence of prog in it's purest sense will be harder to identify. Another wave of prog will come again.
|
||
 |
||
|
Progarchives.com
Advertisement |
Sponsored links (registered users, log in to remove) | |
|
|
||
|
cstack3
Forum Senior Member
VIP Member Joined: July 20 2009 Location: Chicago, IL USA Online Status: Offline Posts: 1801 |
Post Options
Quote Reply
Posted: April 29 2012 at 17:09 |
|
I agree....but, if it does, will we recognize it as such? Musical instrumentation seems pretty much stuck in place...the basic electric guitar/bass is unchanged for many decades, keyboards likewise, and musical styles seem repetitious. I once posited that prog will only resurface if it continues to incorporate pop elements into itself. ITCOTCK was heavily influenced by be-bop dance music (Fripp's earliest influence from his lessons), Yes by the Beatles, Motown and the like, and so forth. Will future prog incorporate auto-tune elements, elaborate dance routines a la Lady Gaga, even more unconventional instrumentation? Or will it simply re-hash the old formulae? To my knowledge, no "establshed" prog musician has picked up on this YouRock midi trigger yet! It has great potential, especially if it is upgraded into a more professional housing. Edited by cstack3 - April 29 2012 at 17:13 |
||
|
||
|
ProgSeeker
Forum Newbie 
Joined: May 26 2012 Online Status: Offline Posts: 20 |
Post Options
Quote Reply
Posted: May 26 2012 at 19:58 |
|
|
It's not dying... just more fragmented (like most music these days). In the 1990s, you had some breakthrough artists that had "mainstream" success within prog circles. We just aren't seeing new bands get as big as Dream Theater, Spock's Beard, and Porcupine Tree did when they burst on the scene. But we're not seeing rock 'n roll bands as big as Led Zeppelin, The Who, or The Stones either.
If you're talking quality... it probably depends on who you ask. I haven't found the latest crop of bands to be as interesting, but others would certainly disagree. It's kind of like the two camps of Dream Theater fans that converge at the Six Degrees album: older (side 2 of SDoIT and earlier) vs. recent (side 1 of SDoIT and newer). I saw DT tour for every album from Images & Words through Train of Thought, and have mostly lost interest since then so I guess I'm in the former camp...
|
||
|
||
|
zumacraig
Forum Senior Member
Joined: December 10 2011 Online Status: Online Posts: 951 |
Post Options
Quote Reply
Posted: May 26 2012 at 20:13 |
|
|
this is interesting. Flower Kings, Spock's, PT, DT are the old guard now. so, who would be this 4th wave of prog? i have no idea. no one new in the last 10 years has really blown me a way. of course, there are bands that get a lot of buzz (opeth, riverside). are they the 4th wave. i'd be curious to hear people's opinions on this.
|
||
|
||
|
Atavachron
Special Collaborator 
Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 30 2006 Online Status: Offline Posts: 43544 |
Post Options
Quote Reply
Posted: May 26 2012 at 20:28 |
|
|
Isn't the only way for there to be a fourth wave of prog is if the third wave dies? I say good riddance.
|
||
|
||
|
zumacraig
Forum Senior Member
Joined: December 10 2011 Online Status: Online Posts: 951 |
Post Options
Quote Reply
Posted: May 27 2012 at 16:42 |
|
good point, but the classic bands haven't totally gone away yet, so the artists don't have to die. however, given that the bands i mentioned are still going strong, i guess the third wave is alive and well. so, who could usher in the fourth wave. new millennium prob!
|
||
|
||
|
areazione
Forum Groupie 
Joined: July 12 2008 Location: Italy Online Status: Offline Posts: 47 |
Post Options
Quote Reply
Posted: May 28 2012 at 05:25 |
|
I most definitely agree. With all due respect for those who are ageing, I truly consider the 80's-wave of prog the worst scenario possible to imagine in the whole history of the genre. Being a progressist myself, beyond music's realm, I simply can't conceive the idea of not listening to some new ideas and developments as far as harmony and rhythm. I'm quite stuffed with songs which sound obvious and predictable from the very beginning. If that were the already told ending of the story, I would then go straight away for pop music and all its ominous appendices. May the merciless gods cast hordes of thunders upon them for the eons to come. Avant-garde, or whatever defines eccentricity, is and will be more than welcome to my ears. From Meshuggah playing swing beat to Opeth whistling afrocuban-like tempos, passing through by Anglagard echoing Renaissance melodies. I just want to be impressed by music, not bored to death. I'm not interested in this sort of epitaph.
|
||
|
Umbra profunda sumus, ne nos vexetis, inepti; non vos, sed doctos tam grave quaerit opus
|
||
|
||
|
harmonium.ro
Special Collaborator
Retired Admin Joined: August 18 2008 Location: Anna Calvi Online Status: Offline Posts: 23412 |
Post Options
Quote Reply
Posted: May 30 2012 at 04:22 |
|
Opeth are definitely not "fourth wave", they've been around for a long time (formed in 1990). Forth wave for me: Kayo Dot, Battles, Mars Volta, Russian Circles, Indukti, Jaga Jazzist, Mew, Eivind Aarset, Kammerflimmer Kollektief, The Decemberists, Isis, etc. Edited by harmonium.ro - May 30 2012 at 04:34 |
||
|
||
|
AtomicCrimsonRush
Special Collaborator
Symphonic Team Joined: July 02 2008 Location: Australia Online Status: Offline Posts: 12784 |
Post Options
Quote Reply
Posted: May 30 2012 at 05:15 |
|
|
^^^ yeah I agree with that list and there's more on the way too in the 4th Wave!
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
zumacraig
Forum Senior Member
Joined: December 10 2011 Online Status: Online Posts: 951 |
Post Options
Quote Reply
Posted: May 30 2012 at 06:56 |
|
cool. gonna check these out. not a big mars volta fan, but the other bands seem interesting. as far as opeth goes, i know they've been around forever, but they seem to be getting bigger, so i wondered if they'd be in this fourth wave. one trend in the last decade has been the convolusion of metal and prog in both the music and festivals. the local prog fest this summer is all metal
 |
||
|
||
|
Codera the Great
Forum Groupie
Joined: June 29 2012 Online Status: Offline Posts: 67 |
Post Options
Quote Reply
Posted: July 01 2012 at 03:24 |
|
|
Nah, I personally feel it's going pretty smoothly at the moment, we have bands like Astra, Opeth, Pain of Salvation, and Steven Wilson (along with the Storm Corrosion project) still releasing strong albums for the genre. I don't think there's anything to worry about for the third wave of prog.
|
||
|
||
|
Post Reply
|
Page <1 567 |
| Forum Jump | Forum Permissions You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot create polls in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum |
