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Anthony H.
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Topic: John Zorn or Fred Frith?Posted: November 19 2011 at 17:33 |
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Both are avant-garde giants who have collaborated extensively in the past. Which do you prefer?
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JS19
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Posted: November 19 2011 at 17:40 |
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Zorny Zorn Zorn
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Posted: November 19 2011 at 17:42 |
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You could certainly compile a sizeable collection based solely on the output of these two.
Went with Frith. |
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Posted: November 19 2011 at 17:48 |
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Have to go with Frith, even though Zorn has many many homeruns in his discog.
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Posted: November 19 2011 at 17:48 |
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I like a lot of Zorn, but know and like much more Frith.
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Posted: November 19 2011 at 17:50 |
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Fred for having known the best over the years. Just got my first three self titled Zorns this year. I was reluctant to try more Zorn after his 50th thingy with Frith, but then I was browsing at my local independent record store because a mail order had failed to arrive in a timely fashion. I started at the rock Zs. Wahoo looked intriguing but was pricey. Went through all the rock and came across a couple of reissues I was kind of interested in but said, nah, maybe and moved on. So next I hit the jazz section. I swear I go all the way from A to Z there and nothing really excites me. I make it to Z and there's several recent Zorns. They are all on Tzadic and have written information blurbs about the album in a little insert at the spine. So I'm thinking hmmm. And I read them and the one for The Dreamers sounded really intriguing:
"Continuing in the tradition of his popular album The Gift, Zorn again combines a lifetime of musical passions—world music, movie soundtracks, jazz, minimalism, exotica, funk, surf rock and more—to create a vibrant and multifaceted album of instrumental fairy tales. Masterfully performed by the all-star players from Electric Masada, The Dreamers is a project of breathtaking variety and will attract listeners of all backgrounds and ages. Bathed in a lush package created by the acclaimed artist and exclusive Tzadik graphic designer Chippy, and accompanied by a sheet of collectable character stickers, The Dreamers is one of Zorn’s most beautiful and appealing projects. Seductive lyricism, hypnotic grooves, catchy hooks and romantic moods from this genre-bashing master of surprise." So I get to the truck and immediately pull off the shrink wrap and pop it in. It was one of those make your day music moments. Totally clicked. ![]()
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Posted: November 19 2011 at 17:53 |
Have you heard The Gift? I highly recommend it. |
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Posted: November 19 2011 at 17:57 |
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No, but I'm interested in it already.
I'm also considering the new Christmas album. Edited by Slartibartfast - November 19 2011 at 18:00 |
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Posted: November 19 2011 at 17:58 |
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This track is spectacular:
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Posted: November 19 2011 at 18:03 |
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Frith because Zorn gets on my nerves.
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Posted: November 19 2011 at 18:07 |
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Posted: November 19 2011 at 18:16 |
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Zorn has too much elevator material for me, whereas I love everything Frith has done
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Posted: November 19 2011 at 18:20 |
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I like Zorn's elevator material better than his sax strangling stuff. OK then, a Frith off...
![]() One I really like: ![]() heard, not heard, like or not if so? ![]() Decided to give this one a spin though: ![]() I had the good fortune of seeing the Crew play live in Atlanta for two shows. ![]() Edited by Slartibartfast - November 19 2011 at 18:28 |
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Posted: November 19 2011 at 18:27 |
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Henry Cow is really the furthest I've gone with Frith, so I don't know which to choose.
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Posted: November 19 2011 at 18:47 |
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Posted: November 19 2011 at 19:00 |
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Posted: November 19 2011 at 19:35 |
What of Frith turns you on? Eno was my entre into Frith. Before And After Science in particular. Edited by Slartibartfast - November 19 2011 at 19:39 |
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Posted: November 19 2011 at 19:48 |
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Wow. I didn't expect such a raping.
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Posted: November 20 2011 at 04:16 |
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Looks like I'm in the minority here.... Did not expect that
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Posted: November 20 2011 at 04:57 |
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Another vote from Frith I'm afraid. I find Zorn's projects to be interesting for twenty minutes or so at a time, but they've never held my attention for an entire album. Mind you, that Dreamers album does look/sound intriguing.
As for Frith - superb improviser, incomparable composer. He's in another league altogether! |
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