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Post 70's Prog World Cup FINAL: PT- Riverside

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    Posted: December 06 2011 at 18:19
... and porcupine tree it is!
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Unexpected results! Shocked

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porcupine tree I guess. MAN THIS IS SO LAME
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Redug Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 06 2011 at 19:53
As far as I'm concerned Porcupine Tree did Riverside better than Riverside does Riverside with FOABP, so PT.
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Riverside is no rival for Porcupine Tree

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Post Options Post Options   Quote infocat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 06 2011 at 21:39
Ideally Echolyn or Discipline. would have won.
But I'm voting Riverside.  Not that I don't like PT.  I have all of their (studio) albums, and like them all to varying degrees.  But...


Edited by infocat - December 07 2011 at 05:55
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I like them both quite the similar amount... Still voted for Riverside LOL

Edited by Thandrus - December 06 2011 at 23:26
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Bluntly, I don't give half a damn about PT. I've heard all their albums at least a couple times, and I can only tolerate ONE song. I almost detest the group. Whether Wilson is stealing from Tangerine Dream's nigh-unlistenable 'galactic keyboard caverns' or when he's futilely reaching his hands into the pockets of Radiohead (who did Krautrock justice, very much unlike any obnoxious, melodically-timid Wilson 'product', which lives in the past instead of builds upon it), or he's doing alternative rock with mid-range vocals blah blah. It's one of the blunders of the world! Oh, what a catchy song! If he'd only do that eight more times instead of one, I'd half care. Where Thom Yorke was trying to sy 'let's see how many emotions we can express with our songs', Wilson was shouting 'hey, how many 1970's and 1980's bands can we pretend to be while we make all our songs real long and 'watery' to trick folks into thinking we're deep and diverse?' 

I don't hate them, outright, just dislike them on a consistent basis. But don't think I deify Riverside. I really enjoyed their first two albums, but ADHD, I'd rather piss on it than listen to it. Naw, my pick for Post-1970 wasn't Riverside. It was probably Ween, but they weren't in the poll. It was also probably Pain of Salvation or Ayreon or Queensryche or Devin Townsend or maudlin of the Well. Riverside were great, but they weren't even close. Oh, much closer than that intolerable Wilson farce, and roughly about as close as the good ol' Opeth, but neither are even in my top fifteen for post-1970's. So hey, I won't vote. 

Instead, I'll hand out an honorary vote to my cat, Jack, who is cuddly and entertaining, who stands by me through thick and thin. Thank you, pet cat Jack. You are truly the world's greatest progressive rock group from after 1979! Or, well maybe you're just a cat.
He gave her his town house and his racing horses. Each meal she ate was a dozen courses. She had a million dollars worth of nickels and dimes. She sat around and counted them all a million times.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote JS19 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 07 2011 at 03:43
Originally posted by Alitare

Bluntly, I don't give half a damn about PT. I've heard all their albums at least a couple times, and I can only tolerate ONE song. I almost detest the group. Whether Wilson is stealing from Tangerine Dream's nigh-unlistenable 'galactic keyboard caverns' or when he's futilely reaching his hands into the pockets of Radiohead (who did Krautrock justice, very much unlike any obnoxious, melodically-timid Wilson 'product', which lives in the past instead of builds upon it), or he's doing alternative rock with mid-range vocals blah blah. It's one of the blunders of the world! Oh, what a catchy song! If he'd only do that eight more times instead of one, I'd half care. Where Thom Yorke was trying to sy 'let's see how many emotions we can express with our songs', Wilson was shouting 'hey, how many 1970's and 1980's bands can we pretend to be while we make all our songs real long and 'watery' to trick folks into thinking we're deep and diverse?' 

I don't hate them, outright, just dislike them on a consistent basis. But don't think I deify Riverside. I really enjoyed their first two albums, but ADHD, I'd rather piss on it than listen to it. Naw, my pick for Post-1970 wasn't Riverside. It was probably Ween, but they weren't in the poll. It was also probably Pain of Salvation or Ayreon or Queensryche or Devin Townsend or maudlin of the Well. Riverside were great, but they weren't even close. Oh, much closer than that intolerable Wilson farce, and roughly about as close as the good ol' Opeth, but neither are even in my top fifteen for post-1970's. So hey, I won't vote. 

Instead, I'll hand out an honorary vote to my cat, Jack, who is cuddly and entertaining, who stands by me through thick and thin. Thank you, pet cat Jack. You are truly the world's greatest progressive rock group from after 1979! Or, well maybe you're just a cat.

You know - If you don't like something, you can just not listen to it. I don't like Radiohead, so I don't listen to them. It makes me a much happier person.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Shevrzl Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 07 2011 at 03:58
Back when this tournament started I really hoped it would be a PT-Riverside final..and it is! Well Riverside, you have surprised many, including me but I doubt PT is going to lose this one. Anyway, another vote Riverside for being more consistently awesome.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Warthur Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 07 2011 at 04:56
On balance, I had to go with PT. Riverside are great, but PT have produced so many classic albums in so many different styles - neo-psychedelia, Floydian space rock, crunchy heavy prog - that I can't not give the nod to them. (If it were Marillion vs. Riverside I'd go with Marillion for the same reason.)
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I'm confused, though. I'm being preached at because I gave my feelings on the bands? I thought that was what this shenanigan was all about - voting and comparing your feelings regarding two bands within a set group. Is it because I go in-depth about why I do and do not like certain groups and what they've done? Is it because my post could be seen as inflammatory or argumentative? You aren't wrong. You aren't wrong for even claiming I'm wrong. You aren't right, though, either. I appreciate that you could have differing feelings and that you could react to my feelings in such a way. Your thoughts and feelings are valid. 

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Hot dogs!
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Originally posted by Alitare

I'm confused, though. I'm being preached at because I gave my feelings on the bands? I thought that was what this shenanigan was all about - voting and comparing your feelings regarding two bands within a set group. Is it because I go in-depth about why I do and do not like certain groups and what they've done? Is it because my post could be seen as inflammatory or argumentative? You aren't wrong. You aren't wrong for even claiming I'm wrong. You aren't right, though, either. I appreciate that you could have differing feelings and that you could react to my feelings in such a way. Your thoughts and feelings are valid. 

The only thing i dont understand is why you have waisted you time listning to ALL there albums, several times ?
Hopefully you havent bought ALL, just to be sure you dont like them Beer
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Riverside? What the hell... Well this makes it very easy for me. 

Same with me. I can't understand how they made it. I guess PT will get my vote also.
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This is too tough of a poll for me because of my love for both bands, so I just won't vote. LOL
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Originally posted by Manuel

Originally posted by harmonium.ro

Riverside? What the hell... Well this makes it very easy for me. 

Same with me. I can't understand how they made it. I guess PT will get my vote also.


Blame Rico.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Ricochet Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 07 2011 at 13:19
Originally posted by harmonium.ro

Originally posted by Manuel

Originally posted by harmonium.ro

Riverside? What the hell... Well this makes it very easy for me. 

Same with me. I can't understand how they made it. I guess PT will get my vote also.


Blame Rico.


Off with my head!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote JS19 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 07 2011 at 13:44
Originally posted by Alitare

I'm confused, though. I'm being preached at because I gave my feelings on the bands? I thought that was what this shenanigan was all about - voting and comparing your feelings regarding two bands within a set group. Is it because I go in-depth about why I do and do not like certain groups and what they've done? Is it because my post could be seen as inflammatory or argumentative? You aren't wrong. You aren't wrong for even claiming I'm wrong. You aren't right, though, either. I appreciate that you could have differing feelings and that you could react to my feelings in such a way. Your thoughts and feelings are valid. 



Sorry, I wasn't trying to preach, honest. I was just countering your opinion. I thought that was what discussion was all about! You're perfectly within reason to have that opinion, I was just saying what my ethos was when it came to bands I don't like.

I really didn't mean offence :) 
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