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Points: 7024 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 16 2011 at 05:38
Minstrel just scrapes 4*. A Passion Play is just 2*. I really don't like it.
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A Passion Play is one of my favorite Tull albums. Minstrel is good, I particularly like Baker Street Muse, but overall, even with the silly "Hare" Passion Play is a much better album.
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Points: 5531 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 16 2011 at 06:17
I'm a big JT fan, hard to chose these two are among the best they got, at least for me Passion play is a real winner. Like aswell Minstrel a lot.
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Points: 4707 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 16 2011 at 06:57
both are pretty awesome 
good thing I don't have to choose!
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For me this is a hard choice. I love both albums, quite different from each other, but have the Tull signature of excellence all over them.

I can't choose, really, since both evoque different emotions on me, and create a different mood when I listen to them. Both are quite enjoyable and meaningful. 
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Points: 7026 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 16 2011 at 10:22
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

I don't know why but The Menstrual In The Gallery always pops into my head for some reason.

I do like the different character of the two albums.


Maybe because of these lines:

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While I do like both the albums, Minstrel is the better one in my ears, only beaten by TAAB and Songs from the Wood in JT’s discography.
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Points: 31157 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 16 2011 at 11:41
Passion Play is my favorite Tull album. Minstrel is definitely in my Tull top 5 though. Amazing albums!
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Originally posted by Wanorak Wanorak wrote:

Minstrel in the Gallery for me by far. I don't fing APP as good as TAAB. MInstrel is my favourite Tull album and seems to encapsulate all of Tull's different sounds on one album; folk to hard rock to symphonic.
Ya  Thumbs Up , just that i think TAAB is as good, but as you say, more varriation on MITG

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Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours
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Originally posted by BarryGlibb BarryGlibb wrote:

Originally posted by dr prog dr prog wrote:

1975 is tulls weakest year of the 70s


Sorry but1976 takes the cake as being the worst year for Tull in the 70s; 1976's "Too Old To RocknRoll Too Young to Die" was their worst output in the 70's by a country mile. "Minstrel in The Gallery"  is a 4-5 star album while "Too Old To RocknRoll Too Young to Die" is 21/2 stars at best ....... IMHO.

Oh and A Pasion Play is a masterpiece. Minstrel in very good but let's itself down in some parts such as "Black Satin Dancer" and the overated "Baker St Muse". But everything else is superb especially the title track....the instrumental middle bit is so far ahead of it time it's not funny.    It's not funny; it's unbelievable.

Still A Passion Play is a much much better prog album than Minstrel.
 
Don't agree about 1976 being worse. While Too old to RnR was a bit daggy, it was meant to be a soundtrack so it wasn't tulls natural style of music. That's probably why Strip cartoon is my fave song on the remaster because it's a real tull song not made for a soundtrack. Same with Warchild, another soundtrack where the bonus tracks are the best tunes. But I do really enjoy Pied piper, Chequered flag and Salamander on the actual album, so there's half a pretty cool album worth of songs on the remaster plus 3 or 4 other decent tunes. I think Minstrel is no better. My fave track is Summderday sands, yet another bonus track. The Minstrel title track is good, but it's just a straight forward glamourish rock song really with helium vocals. Valhalla is good too but it's like a broken record especially Barries drumming. One white duck is real nice for the first half but I don't care much for the second half. The long tunes have their moments too. But overall the acoustics were a bit too strummed, missing Ians great finger work and melody. The heavy songs also lacked the melody Ian was capable of. 1975 and 76 are tulls low point for me. All the other remasters are great though, the bonus tracks really complete them and fill any holes I found in the original albums. Anyone who hasn't updated their tull albums to remasters is missing out on many of tulls best tracks


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Here's my rankings of the remasters between 1969 and 1979:
 
Above 4 star releases
 
Thick as a brick-a masterpiece remastered or not
Aqualung 2 cd(40 years)-1st cd is cool for first half. My god and Wind up are a bit boring. 2nd cd is great though
Heavy horses-best prog folk around
Warchild-get the remaster, almost a double album. 1st half is soundtrack, 2nd half is the real tull and the best tracks
Benefit-a good solid album with 3 classic bonus tracks, making it a very good cd
Stormwatch-the bonus tracks really fill some voids for me
Songs from the wood-another strong folk release
Stand up 2 cd(deluxe)-Similar to Benefit, good solid album with some classic bonus tracks but to a lesser extent. The live Carnegie material makes this a very good addition to your collection
 
4 star releases
 
A passion play-the sister album to Thick as a brick
 
3.5 star releases
 
Too old to RnR
Minstrel
 
 
 


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Originally posted by dr prog dr prog wrote:

Here's my rankings of the remasters:
 
4+ star releases
 
Thick as a brick-a masterpiece remastered or not
Aqualung 2 cd(40 years)-1st cd is cool for first half. My god and Wind up are a bit boring. 2nd cd is great though
Heavy horses-best prog folk around
Warchild-get the remaster, almost a double album. 1st half is soundtrack, 2nd half is the real tull and the best tracks
Benefit-a good solid album with 3 classic bonus tracks, making it a very good cd
Stormwatch-the bonus tracks really fill some voids for me
Songs from the wood-another strong folk release
Stand up 2 cd(deluxe)-Similar to Benefit, good solid album with some classic bonus tracks but to a lesser extent. The live Carnegie material makes this a very good addition to your collection
 
 
 

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Passion is my second favourite Tull album behind Brick. Minstrel is farther down the list but not far.
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Points: 12688 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 16 2011 at 21:38
Minstrel in the Gallery is my preference, and I rate it higher musically and compositionally-speaking,  but you can't go wrong with either album.
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Points: 3659 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 18 2011 at 08:30
Minstrel In The Gallery is one of my favourite Tull albums. A Passion Play's a strange one - sometimes when I'm in the right frame of mind for it I put it on and think it's brilliant - other times less so.
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Impossible to choose. Awesome stuff.
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Minstrel In The Gallery is my favorite album after Thick as A Brick, with the title track being one of my all time favorite Jethro Tull songs.

A Passion Play is great, but I prefer Minstrel.
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Originally posted by Mellotron Storm Mellotron Storm wrote:

Minstrel in The Gallery by far.I was listening to it last Sunday and i forgot how heavy that opening track got.
One of the BEST JT has ever put out - IMHO!  There's some quality "heavy" stuff on 'Songs from the Wood' too...
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Points: 12859 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 04 2012 at 17:39
I love Minstrel, but A Passion Play is the ultimate prog album IMO.
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Originally posted by BlackenedGass BlackenedGass wrote:


A Passion Play is great, but I prefer Minstrel.
A great statement on the debate at hand - I agree totally...
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Points: 5856 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 05 2012 at 23:20
I like A Passion Play better, I hardly am able to make it through Minstrel and usually only stay for the first couple tracks. Whereas APP is very captivating and it keeps my interest the full way through.
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