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    Posted: December 17 2011 at 13:59
Anyone into The Dead on here? I noticed in the Psychedelic/space rock section they're not even mentioned, and they were def the seminal psychedelic rock band of the US. Certainly they have moderate prog rock elements, but far more then Jefferson Airplane ever did. Their live material, structurally, is so similar with prog-rock its crazy. Terrapin Station was the song that turned me on, coming at it from a prog-rock nerd viewpoint, it's a 17-mn musical suite that's just awesome.
 
Much of their stuff is in no way prog-rock, it's rootsy blues, folk, bluegrass style country rock, but their live psychedelic shows are just mind-blowing, epic, legendary pieces of music. The difference being, it's improvized like jazz-fusion, not pre-written like Pink Floyd records.
 
 
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the only album of theirs I like is 'terrapin' station'. It has nice melodies, far from the chaos of their debuts.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Evolver Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 17 2011 at 15:28
I like a lot of their jams.
Blues For Allah and Terrapin Station are the only albums of theirs that I like enough to own.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Dean Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 17 2011 at 17:03
Sorry, I'm going to have to move this thread to General Music Discussions.


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Post Options Post Options   Quote Slartibartfast Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 17 2011 at 19:33
I've only got Terrapin Station and Anthem Of The Sun on CD.  Saw them live a couple of times.  Good enough for me.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote dwill123 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 17 2011 at 19:49
Originally posted by Barbu

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I like Workingman's Dead but otherwise heartily loathe the Grateful Dead Dead
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Jim Garten Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 22 2011 at 07:08
Originally posted by Dean

Sorry, I'm going to have to move this thread to General Music Discussions.


Along with the other 28 threads dedicated to the Grateful Dead over the years...

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The anti-Dead backlash on PA is undeniable....something smells Phishy.

I like to feel the suspense when you're certain you know I am there.....
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I like the  'Dark Star' piece from the Live/Dead album. It is a psycedelic epic which have a lot of improvisations, a nice and recognisable theme and a fantastic climax. The piece's atmosphere is great. I use to listen to it with lights low and perhaps a glass of wine. This piece tells all about the group in the time. 
 
I also like the album "Blues for Allah", with its Fusion leanings, and the proggy Terrapin Station.
 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote darkshade Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 27 2011 at 12:36
I like the Dead. However, I notice a lot of people on PA only talk about jam bands' studio albums. The thing is with Grateful Dead, Phish, moe., String Cheese Incident, even Umphrey's McGee (who make good studio albums), it's ALL ABOUT the live shows, and that is where the magic is.

I'm a big fan of the late-70s Dead, where the jams were spacey and funky. Similar to how Phish were funky during their 97-98 period.
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I'm a recent convert.  I used to hang out with people who loved listening to them all the time, and it just sounded so boring and uninteresting to me.  I didn't hate it, but didn't really enjoy it either.  Then about a year ago, a friend loaned me their entire studio album catalog (with recently-appended bonus live material), and I decided one week to listen to it from start to finish at work and see how it went.   I already had a "working knowledge" of their catalog but wasn't yet too good about attaching songs to song names to albums.

Before long, I realized it was music that made me happy. The early improvisational/experimental stuff like Anthem of the Sun and Dark Star gave me a soft platform for my mind to wander and drift.   The countryish stuff on Workingman's Dead and American Beauty were a much harder sell (I despise country music), but I was still able to enjoy it in a toe-tapping, head bobbing capacity.  Then they went more jazzy and got more sophisticated composition and recording techniques (I'm not going to call it prog or even prog-inspired)  with Wake of the Flood through Terrapin, and I probably liked that stuff the best.  Even stuff that everyone hates like Go to Heaven have gotten repeated spins accompanied by comfort and smiles.

They're a band that wants to be your friend, that's the best way I can put it.  Once I let my guard down and let them into my life, they entertained me in lots of ways.  It's definitely a convenient band to like, because there's no end to the collection of live recordings, each with their own little personality stamp, that you can enjoy and discover.  So I'm glad I like them now.  They're an easy band to like.  An easy band to hate, too.


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Post Options Post Options   Quote Finnforest Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 27 2013 at 11:10
Bobby goes down at Further last night.  Hope he's OK. 




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Post Options Post Options   Quote jude111 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 27 2013 at 12:35
Originally posted by ExittheLemming

I like Workingman's Dead but otherwise heartily loathe the Grateful Dead Dead

Me too. I'd rather save my money and then fly off to Ibiza or catch a Glastonbury Festival then be subjected to this kind of American music (Phish, Dave Matthews, Pearl Jam et al).


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I saw the Grateful Dead play over 300 times between 1971 and 1995.  And that is not including all the times I saw the Jerry Garcia Band, too.  I still get out to see an occasional Rat Dog or Furthur show.  As a matter of fact, I just saw three Furthur shows over the last New Year's Eve weekend in San Francisco.  When people say "there is/was nothing like a Grateful Dead concert" they are telling you the truth.  No band on this planet can touch the Dead.
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... And the Grateful Dead had the best sound quality of any band I ever saw live.  And I saw almost every great band there was to see back in the day.  And they even ALLOWED us fans to tape record their shows.  They even set up a special taper section so people could set up their recording equipment away from the noisier fans.  
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Larree Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 27 2013 at 13:12
Originally posted by Finnforest

Bobby goes down at Further last night.  Hope he's OK. 



A few friends of mine have tickets for tonight's show.  


Edited by Larree - April 27 2013 at 13:12
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Larree Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 27 2013 at 14:34
Okay.  Since some of you dig Terrapin Station here is the very first live performance at the San Bernardino Swing Auditorium on 2-26-1977.  I was there!



And here is the first complete performance of Terrapin Station in it's entirety at the Winterland Arena in San Francisco on 3-18-1977.  I was there!



And one more for sh*ts and grins.  The very first Estimated Profit also performed at the San Bernardino Swing on 2-26-1977.




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Post Options Post Options   Quote Finnforest Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 27 2013 at 14:38
Larree, 74-77 were probably the peak of the live shows, don't you think?  They seemed a bit tighter and the material more challenging. 

American Beauty remains my favorite album and I think one of  the greatest Americana albums of all time.  I can't take a road trip without having that one with meSmile


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