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    Posted: December 19 2011 at 11:55
So why are you crying your eyes out today because our dear leader has departed from his planet ? Vote, please. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 19 2011 at 12:04
Hmm, no 'Other' option..?

I mourn his passing for two reasons:

a) His incredible sense of style. He was not afraid to wear the same khaki overalls for decades. Loved the Roy Orbison specs too.

b) His contribution to the North Korean prog rock scene. His band 'Wistful Tyranny' were the only band in rock history, to actually shoot real people on stage. Blimey, not even Kiss or Alice done that!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 19 2011 at 12:34
Eh???LOL
He was a fun guy.  I do seriously wonder if things will get better for the people or if it will be more of the same.  One of those adios, don't let the door hit you too hard in the butt on your way out kind of leaders.


Edited by Slartibartfast - December 19 2011 at 12:38
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 19 2011 at 12:40
I suspect it will be more of the same or worse.  Interestingly, the articles talk of how North Koreans were taking to the streets mourning the death of their Dear Leader and how one newscaster reported his death with tears.  I'm not sure if there is any truth to these things that have been reported or if it is just state sponsored propaganda.  I imagine that there may actually be some citizens that are genuinely saddened by his death but with what we are told of what goes on in North Korea, that really is hard to imagine.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 19 2011 at 12:43
Please remember that this is a global site, we respect all nationalities here. While I'm sure there is a political discussion to be had, please respect the fact that it is likely that we have people from North Korea or who have connections with that country among our membership, who will be upset by the news.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 19 2011 at 12:43
Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

I suspect it will be more of the same or worse.  Interestingly, the articles talk of how North Koreans were taking to the streets mourning the death of their Dear Leader and how one newscaster reported his death with tears.  I'm not sure if there is any truth to these things that have been reported or if it is just state sponsored propaganda.  I imagine that there may actually be some citizens that are genuinely saddened by his death but with what we are told of what goes on in North Korea, that really is hard to imagine.

There's this too.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 19 2011 at 12:47

It is possible that the video is staged, but it could be true.  Kind of just wonder if Wag The Dog newsmaking might be going on.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 19 2011 at 12:56



In his death, the people of NK can, SLOWLY, start getting back to normalcy.
While he was the big cheese, obviously he just lazed around while others did the work...and it's no secret that the Koreas hope to unify. Especially the North since they have been horribly impoverished since their dependence on other countries started drying up. First the USSR, then China, then the US/West....good thing they believe in the idea of Juche aka self dependence!!!!

Between that and what we've seen with Stalin and Mao...even though tyranny will continue the new wave of power will slowly, very slowly, shed the cult of personality and work to integrate them into normal society.


edit: Yes, not a slight on the people at all. People are the same regardless of location....we all are just trying to get through life, and make the best for ourselves and families. This will be a good thing for the country though, even if it takes quite a while.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 19 2011 at 13:09
Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

It is possible that the video is staged, but it could be true.  Kind of just wonder if Wag The Dog newsmaking might be going on.

It's a combination of both, but mainly it's pretty genuine which was one of the surprises that I learned from reading about the lives of North Koreans. The same happened when il-sung died. 
Their normalcy is what they know and since NK society is very closed, then what little they have and what they know of the rest of the world is only what they are told. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 19 2011 at 13:41

Originally posted by Easy Livin Easy Livin wrote:

Please remember that this is a global site, we respect all nationalities here. While I'm sure there is a political discussion to be had, please respect the fact that it is likely that we have people from North Korea or who have connections with that country among our membership, who will be upset by the news.

First of all; ProgArchives is banned from North Korea (and some other countries) because they regard you and the rest of us as fascists, repressive barbaric monsters and enemies. So our ability to causing offense in Northern Korea or to any exiles is zero, zilch, nill. 

I also don't think it is our/the Admins calling to respect & honour genocidal dictators while we on an industrial scale disrespect and mock democratic elected heads of states and those nationalities who has elected them. Wink  


 



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 19 2011 at 13:44
I think it's a shame. He would have made a very good head of my lot, HM Revenue & CustomsLOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 19 2011 at 14:13


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 19 2011 at 14:37
It has to be said that his supreme golfing skills will be missed.  He holds the record for 36 under par and 11 holes in one in a row!!  Tiger Wood eat your heart out!  Luckily for those golfers out there he is such a great leader that he voluntarily retired after this feat so that others could have a chance to win golfing tournaments!  
 
Incredible!
 
I suspect that where he is going he wont be ronery any more.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 19 2011 at 14:41
He's dead?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 19 2011 at 14:41
Oh yes A joke for those  Brits out there who know Spike Milligans grave stone
 
What it will say on Kim's stone.
 
'I told you I was (Kim Jong) il !'
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 19 2011 at 14:43
Well, here's this for all of us to enjoy.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 19 2011 at 14:49
I wonder what they are going to do with his dvd collection
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 19 2011 at 16:20
Originally posted by A Person A Person wrote:

Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

I suspect it will be more of the same or worse.  Interestingly, the articles talk of how North Koreans were taking to the streets mourning the death of their Dear Leader and how one newscaster reported his death with tears.  I'm not sure if there is any truth to these things that have been reported or if it is just state sponsored propaganda.  I imagine that there may actually be some citizens that are genuinely saddened by his death but with what we are told of what goes on in North Korea, that really is hard to imagine.

There's this too.



I wonder how many of those people had guns pointed at them?

Seriously


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 19 2011 at 16:22
If they're on camera they don't need guns aimed at them.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 19 2011 at 16:22
Maybe Darth Maul was present and using the dark side on them.
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