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Topic: StrategyPosted: January 04 2012 at 04:08 |
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Guitarist Tim HERSCHBERG and drummer John WATTS started playing original rock music in Phoenix, Arizona in the 1990s. After doing the local band circuit, HERSCHBERG and WATTS began a strict regimen of writing and recording, invested in equipment and after struggling to find a bassist, finally secured the services of friend Rocco SANTIGATI who also helped record and lay down tracks for the STRATEGY debut album (2007). Highly focused on a strange and dissonant approach, STRATEGY intentionally push the limits of modern guitar-based progressive rock as well as the tolerance of most listeners, making for a challenging sound that draws on the patterns of 80s CRIMSON with the oddities of fellow Arizonans CARTOON. I got in touch with the band and here is their story. #################################################################################
When and by whom was your band born ?
Did any of you, past and present members, play in any other bands
before joining up in your band ? Why did you choose that name and
which bands were you influenced by ?
Strategy
is more of a project than an actual band. There aren't a lot, if any,
places to play out for our style of music so we mostly just write and
record. Myself and drummer John Watts are the people who started
Strategy. Rocco Santigati came on to help out on bass after most of
the tracks for the CD had been laid down. All of us have been in
bands prior to the Strategy release. Rocco was in several prog bands
that played in the Phoenix area during the 70's. In 1980 he and
I formed a band called Mask that was influenced by a number of bands,
but the strongest were probably the 72/74 error Crimson and Gentle
Giant with nods to National Health and Hatfield and the North. During
this period in phoenix there was a fairly strong underground scene.
From the progressive scene there was Cartoon and Knebnegauge
(later to become Pocket Orchestra). After Mask broke
up in 1982 he and I continued to collaborate on projects for the rest
of the decade. I formed a power trio called ToyBox that performed
around Phoenix from 1990 to 1993. We were sort of blues rock
with a Rush twist. In about 1994 or so I met John and we had a band
that played around the city that was more of a straight ahead rock
band with elements of blues rock in it. John had been a working
musician for many years and played in a number of jazz and cover
country bands. He was also involved with an obscure phoenix band
called Ashbury that had an LP out in about 1983 called Endless Skies.
The
name Strategy came about as most band names I'm sure. Going through a
bunch of names and phrases and then out of the blue something strikes
you. I was reading and the word strategy came up and it hit me as
something that would be cool for a band name. I though it sounded as
though it matched what we sounded like so I approached John with the
idea and he liked it. So Strategy it was! I think the main influences
were once again, 72/74 era Crimson, Gentle Giant and National Health.
There were other influences that came into play here as well though,
Henry Cow and some blues/blues rock. I'm a big fan of Rory Gallagher
so there are definitely nods to that in there as well.
How is the music scene in Arizona now,
a state most known for it's thrash metal scene ?
Metal
does seem to rule the roost right now but there are a lot of
different musical styles that are strong as well. Blues has always
been around as well as country. Unfortunately progressive hasn't
really seen much, if any traction since the early 80's. Paul
Sears from the Muffins moved out to the valley about a year ago and
I've gotten to know him and jam with him a bit. He is now working
with a band, that has some international notoriety, called Oxygene8
who has Linda Cushma on stick. Hopefully with Paul and some other
diehards we can jump start the scene again. That's probably a pipe
dream, but everyone needs a dream!
![]() Over to your two albums so far. Your
self titled debut album was released in 2007. Please tell us more
about this album.
During
the late 90's John and I were working with a vocalist and putting
together longer pieces that were more reminiscent of KC, genesis,
yes, PFM and some other vocal oriented bands. Unfortunately the
vocalist, whose family was from the San Francisco Bay area, moved
back there in 2000. We tried to continue to work long distant but it
didn't work out. John and I spent the next 2 years trying to find a
vocalist to try and carry on. That didn't work out so we decided
to do an instrumental, and thus was born Strategy.
I'd
describe it as a kind of of heavy rock meets avant progressive. I
love the first Captain Beyond album, actually I like all 3 but the
first was definitely my favorite, Black Sabbath, Cream and again Rory
Gallagher. So you collide that with KC, Gentle Giant, Henry Cow and
National Health and I think you have a good representation of what
the CD sounds like. A lot of heavy riffs with odd meters and
dissonant sounding melodies that are harmonized ala HC.
Then we heard nothing from you for some
years. Why this long silence ?
This is
kind of a funny question in that the first CD really took about 7
years to complete. The second was a relatively quick 4! A couple of
things that affected the length of time between cd's
was, Rocco decided to stop playing music and move on to other
pursuits so we were without a bass player for about year. After that
we reconnected with a friend of ours who we had worked with
earlier, Tony Olive. I had a number of songs that I had written so we
needed to bring Tony up to speed on those as well as work out new
songs I was writing as we were going. We have about 16+ songs,
of which 8 made the new CD. So we still have another CD in the
works. My hope is this one won't take as long to get out.
You have returned with a new album.
Please tell us more about this album.
The new
album still has a heavy vibe to it but not as much as the Strategy
CD. It's quite a bit more melodic and maybe a little less focused on
the odd meter riffing. Still has a lot of odd meter but 4/4 finds
itself into the picture quite a bit more. Although I'm very proud of
the Strategy CD, I was disappointed in the fact that we could not
find a keyboard or horn player. Many of the harmony parts for that cd
were not originally planed for guitar but rather horn or keyboard. So
to rectify that I started playing keys and they are an integral part
of the new CD. I'm not a great keyboardist but adequate enough to
play what I was hearing in my head.
There
are a lot of diverse pieces on the CD from acoustic to very
heavy with some jazz, blues and hard rock. Additionally this
is not a Strategy album. With the different focus on the
music and the fact that Rocco left I felt we needed a new name to
distinguish this from the Strategy band. So we choose H.O.W for
Herschberg, Olive Watts. Not very imaginary but it'll do. We may
do another Strategy band CD in the future, but as of know that has
been put on hiatus. If Rocco decides in the future to get back into
music then there is probably a good likely hood that will happen.
For those of us unfamiliar with your
music; how would you describe you music and which bands would you
compare yourself with ?
I, we
are influenced by a wide variety of musicians and bands. I personally
like, classical, jazz, blues, rock, blues rock and progressive.
I'm partial to progressive but all those things find there way into
my music. Aside from the bands mentioned my guitar influences
are Rory Gallagher, Alvin Lee, Leslie West, Tony Iommi, Bill
Nelson, Roye Albrighton, Jukka Tolonen, Robert Fripp, Fred
Frith, Andy Latimer, Wishbone Ash, Thin Lizzy and whole bunch
more (of course Hendrix, Beck, Clapton and Page go without saying).
As I
said above the music is a collision of all these influences. It
can run from very subtle to raging, from bluesy to jazzy and then
very progressive. I find that it's never as easy to describe your own
sound as other's can. We had one reviewer of the Strategy CS
comment that it sound like a fusion band with a blues guitarist. So
the best thing is to listen to it and decide for yourself (PLEASE
LISTEN TO IT).
What is your current status and what is
the plans for your band in the future ?
Currently
we are still writing and recording. I'm finishing up the
additional songs that Tony, John and I tracked. So hopefully
there will be another H.O.W CD out in the not to distant future. John
and I continue to write and are working on a CD. Additionally we have
started working with our vocalist, Rich McCloskey again, and have
several vocal tracks that are coming together. Hopefully that will be
completed sometime in 2012 (crossing my fingers). With digital
recording and file sharing advances we can now share tracks back and
forth and Rich being in SF and John and I being in Phoenix
are no longer the hurdle they once were. So we are looking forward to
that. We have a couple of tracks completed, and if I do say
so myself, they sound very good.
To wrap up this interview, is there
anything you want to add to this interview ?
I'd
just like to thank you for the opportunity to talk a little about our
music. Hopefully people will read this and find an interest in our
brand of progressive and want to hear more. Thanks again and Happy
Holidays! Thank you to Strategy for this interview |
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