Genre Obsession!

progprogprog wrote: octopus-4 wrote: progprogprog wrote: I don't know if the subject had been created before, excuse me if so. Progressive rock music(specially old ones) are very uncommon in my area, and I think thats made me such a fanatic person about prog. I think a lot of people here shares this feeling. I'm one of those nerds .  Your location is the origin of a great part of prog, RPI, what's goin' on over there nowadays?

octopus-4 wrote: There's a lot of new bands struggling to survive, then PFM and Banco are still around. Last year we had a two days progfest in Rome and Opeth with Pain of Salvation will play in Milan....unfortunately that's all. Compared to the mainstream we are still a bunch of nerds. Banco and PFM are more famous outside than here and if you switch on any radio here you can have an overdose of mainstream crap. Search for "Sanremo" on youtube and you'll have an idea

Edited by progprogprog - January 06 2012 at 14:18

I have an obsession with Elton John now, as you can see in my avatar/sig

progprogprog wrote: aginor wrote: I have an obsession with Elton John now, as you can see in my avatar/sig Though, I don't see it far from "love".Those two is proven to be abnormal I believe fanaticism makes life more alive.

its really high quality music and rarely any songs from 70 to 76 that can be labeled bad or filler really

Edited by aginor - January 06 2012 at 13:58

octopus-4 wrote: progprogprog wrote: octopus-4 wrote: progprogprog wrote: I don't know if the subject had been created before, excuse me if so. Progressive rock music(specially old ones) are very uncommon in my area, and I think thats made me such a fanatic person about prog. I think a lot of people here shares this feeling. I'm one of those nerds .  Your location is the origin of a great part of prog, RPI, what's goin' on over there nowadays? There's a lot of new bands struggling to survive, then PFM and Banco are still around. Last year we had a two days progfest in Rome and Opeth with Pain of Salvation will play in Milan....unfortunately that's all. Compared to the mainstream we are still a bunch of nerds. Banco and PFM are more famous outside than here and if you switch on any radio here you can have an overdose of mainstream crap. Search for "Sanremo" on youtube and you'll have an idea

I absolutely agree with what you're saying...but there are many bands coming back (RRR, Maxophone) and also a lot of new ones (like Tempio delle Clessidre). The bands are not the problems, it's just that the fanbase is mainly composed of middle-aged men and in 40 years they'll be all dead.

Don't smoke, and You'll be fine.

I think the album tagging idea is fantastic, and I have no problems with the current categorizations.  Well, some specific bands I take issue with how they were categorized, but as mentioned previously, tagging would help to eliminate some of this.

Categorization is impossible to avoid, no matter how much you think you are above it or whatever (heck, "music" is itself a category).  As human beings, it's what we do, consciously or unconsciously, every single one of us.  I mean, if we didn't, there would be no progarchives at all.  Just a giant, all inclusive, music site where you couldn't find anything you wanted to find because none of it would be classified in any way.  Except alphabetically, which is of course a classification.  So you can't really get around it no matter what you do.

Every argument I see against classification is specific to a given band or album.  I think tagging would be the best way to resolve a lot of this.  The band would get classified a specific way by the admins, then it would be up to the users to tag the individual albums.  This might result in a bands albums not matching their classification, but if that happened (which, I think, would be extremely rare) then the admins could take another look at the band and possibly re-classify them.

In any case, I don't mind things the way they are but do agree with Logan that it would be nice to find cross genre acts easier on the site.  As it is, I don't really do much research here either, unless I hear about a specific band or bands elsewhere and want to find out more about them and their albums here.


Edited by infandous - January 10 2012 at 09:11

Yeah I used to be quite a genre stickler myself and obsessed with labeling, maybe because of that is how I ended up like this...I hate genres frankly
With metal, I now have like 6 or 7 I use for my personal collection and prog rock is pretty much prog rock. I just drove myself insane with genres and found it easier and more logical just to consolidate.

Started more than a few arguments about how can I think "x" is that? or how "y" isn't even really a genre?

Besides the band themselves don't care a lick, even if they do! It seems every artist regardless of genre say "nah we're just (x) and whatever label you wanna put on us doesn't matter". A little lame to here from a band that is blatantly playing a style but valid point anyway!

Prog. Rock naturally !