Eno's influence on early Roxy Music overrated? - Progressive Rock Music Forum

Eno affected the sound of Roxy, That mush is evident.

Coldness doth get away with the badness.

Those were the early days of electronica, I mean the VCS3 was a pioneering instrument that often oscillated out of control. Roxy was mostly a Ferry vehicle with contributions from Mackay, Manzanera and Thompson (the most underrated drummer, period!) . The bass slot was a turnstile all along and Jobson was a unique hired gun (like with Tull) . Eno's contribution was treating sounds and visions (his hair, plumes, spandex, sequins, boas etc...) , filtering Manzanera's lofty leads and providing a live contrast to Ferry's suave demeanor. Eno became a wizard and a true star (sorry, Todd) when he left RM and started spweing amazing , visionary rock albums , like his first few. The rest is history.

To compare Emerson to Eno is about as obliquely absurd as it gets.

Edited by tszirmay - January 16 2012 at 12:04

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Separating was the best thing that could have happened to both. Eno era Roxy was marked by Eno doing squeaky noises and Ferry's voice needing some work. LOL

Originally posted by hellogoodbye

You're right. Poor technique. Great inspiration. Everyone can't have both.

Although I have never read this remark from Emerson before if it is true I am a little disappointed with him.

Edited by Snow Dog - January 16 2012 at 12:16

Coldness doth get away with the badness.

Hi Snow Dog!

I took the Emerson remark from David Buckley's
well-researched biography "Bryan Ferry and Roxy Music".
Besides, as a fan of Roxy music (saw them 18 times live),
it wasn't my intention to downgrade Eno's achievements
towards Roxy's formative years, but just to throw in
a little pepper, cause sometimes in the discussions one
really gets the impression of people thinking that without
Eno Roxy wouldn't have started.
And this I indeed doubt strongly.

Have a nice day

It also begs the question of how technical ability relates to influence.

It also begs the question of who is says "...without Eno their two early masterpieces (self-titled debut and For your pleasure) wouldn't have happened. "

It also begs the question of where this is "often stated" because in 40 years I've never seen it stated.

It also begs the question of what does the OP know of how much sound was treated by Eno on those first two albums.

It also begs the question of how Eno could do any Moog-extravaganza when the synth used was an VCS3.

It also begs the question of how much Eno's influence was on the style of Roxy Music visually and how important that was to the early fame and fortune of Roxy Music.

It also begs the question of how closely the OP has listened to those first two Roxy albums if he cannot detect Eno's "unique approach to sound" in every track and not just Bogus Man.

It also begs the question of why Stranded and Country Life are soo different from Roxy Music and For Your Pleasure.

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Originally posted by Dean

It also begs the question of how technical ability relates to influence.

It also begs the question of who is says "...without Eno their two early masterpieces (self-titled debut and For your pleasure) wouldn't have happened. "

It also begs the question of where this is "often stated" because in 40 years I've never seen it stated.

It also begs the question of what does the OP know of how much sound was treated by Eno on those first two albums.

It also begs the question of how Eno could do any Moog-extravaganza when the synth used was an VCS3.

It also begs the question of how much Eno's influence was on the style of Roxy Music visually and how important that was to the early fame and fortune of Roxy Music.

It also begs the question of how closely the OP has listened to those first two Roxy albums if he cannot detect Eno's "unique approach to sound" in every track and not just Bogus Man.

It also begs the question of why Stranded and Country Life are soo different from Roxy Music and For Your Pleasure.

Well then pennies for your begging bowl. It seems Brian's influence was properly rated. Tongue

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Edited by Slartibartfast - January 16 2012 at 15:15

Originally posted by MagicMoo

Hi everybody!

After hearing Roxy Music's debut, Keith Emerson

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Too bad Eno was fired from RM. His Enossification was fabulous on early Roxy. They never sounded that good anymore after Eno left. In my ever so humble opinion, of course Cool

There's more than virtuosity to keyboardists. Eno knew about atmosphere, which was great.

^ Ferry did the keyboard job.

Originally posted by Moogtron III

Too bad Eno was fired from RM. His Enossification was fabulous on early Roxy. They never sounded that good anymore after Eno left. In my ever so humble opinion, of course Cool

There's more than virtuosity to keyboardists. Eno knew about atmosphere, which was great.

Fired? I thought he quit. [pulling my hair.]

Edited by Dayvenkirq - May 30 2012 at 17:13

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