Are We Not Better Than This?

Apparently no one remembers My Lai.

oh, LOL.

Edited by KoS - March 01 2012 at 04:13

Look everyone, we all get that war is ugly and atrocities always have been committed in war and atrocities always will be committed in war. What's the point of saying that? It's not a justification. Who cares? You're not giving an argument. I'll still condemn those who commit them every time. 

I agree, but as a percentage of the population I find those people to be small. 

Originally posted by JJLehto Originally posted by jammun Apparently no one remembers My Lai. It's war my friends.  Hell, that only got so much press because we didn't win. WWII had abuses and crimes committed by the Allies but, ya know, we won.

More accurately put it got so much press because our leaders were saying we were winning, which was a lie, and it occurred before we didn't win.

Arguably the firebombing of Dreseden and nuclear attacks on Hiroshima and Nagasaki were allied atrocities.  But so was the German bombing attacks on Britain and the Bataan death march.

In the end the question has already been answered and it is that no matter who we are we aren't.  Humans as a species have some work to do.


Edited by Slartibartfast - March 01 2012 at 15:14

We need a kinder gentler form of war. 

Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Look everyone, we all get that war is ugly and atrocities always have been committed in war and atrocities always will be committed in war. What's the point of saying that? It's not a justification. Who cares? You're not giving an argument. I'll still condemn those who commit them every time.

Originally posted by JJLehto Originally posted by Slartibartfast We need a kinder gentler form of war.  Yeah whatever happened to that whole "lets bomb Iraq with food" notion? Did they just attach the food to the tip of missiles?

I thought it meant that the "bombs" were just big piñatas?

They had to store the urine somewhere I suppose, maybe the ground was being too disrespectful.

Originally posted by Vibrationbaby Originally posted by Slartibartfast See, here's the thing, I can understand our soldier doing this because they had hostility towards the taliban enemy.  Filming it and letting it get out on youtube was just stupid. I don't blame the soldiers. They're not fighting an honourable enemy. From time to time footage like this is leaked to the media and now we have youtube. I remember some footage of hazing rituals that were going on for decades in the Canadian Airborne Regiment resulted in their disbandment by the Canadian gov't. I was in the military and I saw some crazy sh*t that reamained in the military. Unless you've served you don't understand this sort of behaviour. But I do think it should have been kept to themselves and who ever posted that was a f**king moron.

Actually as a human being, I believe I understand this behavior very well. It's sickening and perpetuated by weak minded cowards too afraid or too stupid to empathize with other human beings simply because they've been indoctrinated to view their own side as the embodiment of good. They blame their enemy for their present condition rather than themselves for volunteering and their government for starting the war and shipping them overseas under false pretenses. They're not fighting a honorable enemy? Neither are the Taliban. Neither are Hezbollah.

 Don't try to cover this up with some macho bullsh*t about how you served and how nobody else can possibly judge these people unless they were in the same shoes. You know what? I'm in the exact same shoes as these guys. Only I've chosen not to take place in the senseless bloodshed.