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    Posted: May 20 2004 at 20:29

Todd Rundgren now what an amazong musician.

What do you guys think of his work? is he ispirational or just inspired by others?

well i think hes amazing for the fact he is so talented , from pop to utopia to experimental stuff also inbetween he produced many famous musicans and bands.

Some of the stuff he done with Utopia is mind blowing, very prog . Im currently listening to The Ikon..and in some of the longer songs i see some sort of Yes presence.

AWATS basically wow....its the best ..then i think of something anything...in 1994 he introduced something totally new and different... No World Order saw the first interactive cd ..this was another new musical direction for Rundgren...With a Twist saw him experiment Bosa Nova style..now to date Liars still fresh and new...now theres many more fantasic albums but i wish not to go so in depth at this moment .

So how do  you percieve Todd?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 21 2004 at 03:12
I just heard The Utopia Live album... I didn't like it too much, so I didn't buy another Todd Rungren stuff. Maybe I'm missing something good  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 21 2004 at 03:53
The first three Utopia albums (TR's Utopia, Another Live, Ra) are fantastic, classics of '70s American prog. I haven't heard Todd's Initiation, but I hear that cooks, too. Todd is certainly a musical wunderkind, but aside from these albums, I don't see myself owning anything else of his.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 21 2004 at 04:48

Originally posted by dropForge dropForge wrote:

The first three Utopia albums (TR's Utopia, Another Live, Ra) are fantastic, classics of '70s American prog. I haven't heard Todd's Initiation, but I hear that cooks, too. Todd is certainly a musical wunderkind, but aside from these albums, I don't see myself owning anything else of his.

 

I greatly enjoyed Todd Rundgren solo work prior to the release of  Utopia, because I was attracted to the one of the great one-man musicians i.e somebody who put a whole album together: production, played most if not all the instruments, following in the steps of Paul McCartney as critics at the time put it - was an Emitt Rhodes another of those solo artists at the beginning of the 70's? The double Something/Anything? was seen as a minor landmark during the hopeful early days of 70's rock, but there is really little to associate that album with prog, with its fine mix of pop, rock, blues and some silliness.

 

Utopia was the ear opener - in many respects the first obvious US prog album, (I haven't  forgotten my beloved Touch), with it Yes-type line-up but playing far more aggressive rock and with those prog changes. At first this record was a shock, having become used to the Englishness of prog, and perhaps started to grew tired of the metaphysical lyrics of Anderson, here was American brashness pushing/progressing rock. And the bonus, this was the longest single LP ever. Initiation followed with the distinction of being longer still (and the very unusual instruction on the back cover : tape this album now because of the finest of the micro-grooving of the pressing it will wear quickly with loss of hi fidelty), and over the last 30 years has  retained my strong interest/continual playing because of at least two songs there being in my top ten tunes. Edgar Winter guests with some wonderful electric sax. Side Two lasting over 30 minutes is not everybody's cuppa tea but you have to find that time to sit and listen properly to a man contemplating his beliefs. RA has its moments (the album came with a cardboard cut out model of the Pyramid of Cheops - cut it out and it was claimed you could re-sharpen razorblades!!!) "Hiroshima" is another of those all time favourites and possibly the best anti-bomb song of all times. Live is also excellent, with West Side Story and ELO covers - my brother nicked my copy and I eventually had to buy the CD (when those were invented).

Anybody care to comment about Nazz?

 

And don't forget Rundgren's major contributions to Meatloaf's Bat Out Of hell.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 21 2004 at 05:47
Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:


And don't forget Rundgren's major contributions to Meatloaf's Bat Out Of hell.



That's one thing which has always bugged me....... Bat Out Of Hell was effectively a Todd Rundgren/Jim Steinman album, with Meatloaf on vocals...... yet it was credited as a Meatloaf album. This couldn't have been for commercial reasons, as Meatloaf was virtually unknown beforehand (except for one poor album & a part in the musical 'Hair') - seems unfair on Rundgren/Steinman

The only Rudgren I've ever heard is of the very poppy variety (which is unfortunate, as I understand he is a very talented guitarist / keyboard player / arranger) - can you guys recommend a good, pure prog album of Rudgren/Utopia to begin with?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 21 2004 at 08:48
Initiation is a mix of prog and straighter rock. I would suggest Todd Rundgren's Utopia, the first listed in the discography (to avoid confusion).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 21 2004 at 13:21
agreed. Utopia firstly then maybe Ra and Another live
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 21 2004 at 13:26

Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

 
can you guys recommend a good, pure prog album of Rudgren/Utopia to begin with?

The first: Todd Rundgren's Utopia. Check out the MP3. The whole disc is incredible, though in need of re-mastering. Beats the hell out of Par Lindh Projects; Gothic Impressions. IMHO

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 21 2004 at 14:51

The man is "A wizard, a true star". Unfortunately he loses the plot sometimes, but when he's good, he's brilliant.

Take "Faithful" for example. One entire side consists of cover versions so perfect, it's hard to tell them from the originals. What's the point in that? Side two however has great Rundgren songs such as "The verb to love", a stunningly beautiful and original piece which make the album essential.

 

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