Ideas for a Prog Radio Show

moshkito, couple things. First off, this is really a just for fun thing me and my buddies do once a year, and our hope is that we'll expose people to music they wouldn't otherwise listen to and MAYBE they'll like it enough that it will draw them in. Because of this, we do want to play things that wouldn't normally be played on the radio but don't want to get so crazy that we turn off potential listeners. Secondly, I'm starting to wonder if our definitions of "progressive" differ? I've heard some people say "this isn't progressive" or "that's not progressive" and it seems their definition is that nothing is progressive unless it doesn't sound anything like anything else that's ever been done. And that's a great usage of the literal english translation of the word, but I don't think it captures the meaning if the term as it relates to music when people say "progressive rock". Plus that's an impossible standard to achieve - there would only be a handful of truly progressive musicians and they would've all lived thousands of years ago. But I think the main idea of progressive music is to achieve complexity by using these four main techniques:
1) using a composition style that flows more like a narrative than the common verse/chorus or poetical compositional style that is so over used in pop.
2) number 1 often naturally results in the second common characteristic of prog which is epic length, ir longer compositions.
3) songs often include very technical all-instrumental sections
4) the usage of uncommon metres or compound time.

Originally posted by moshkito Originally posted by AtomicCrimsonRush 2.    AMERICA/ SECOND AMENDMENT – THE NICE   No way .... you gotta follow this up with YES'  version of America ... which was the piece that really got them noticed here, before the YES ALBUM came out. FM radio liked playing that version even though it was not in their first two albums, but the radio stations in LA (klos-knac and kmet) all had the promos.

It would be nice if you could list the songs you played on the shows too.

Hi,

Very nice..idea...

Originally posted by dtguitarfan Hmmm, and then curious people won't listen to it?  ;-)Fine, I'll give you the lists.  Yes, we repeated artists - this is a yearly thing and we figured we'd be lucky if anyone who listened the first year listened the second, and we just wanted to give the best representation of our favorite artists in the genre each year.  The 2011 show had:Torn by a Phrase by A.C.T.Behaving Badly by Animals As LeadersAlley Cat by Seventh WonderUnder A Glass Moon (live) by Dream TheaterStress by Pain of SalvationMother of Light by EpicaSurpent I Am by SuspyreSin by Circus MaximusThe Sacrifice by Symphony XIconic by Sieges EvenThe 2012 show had:Insomnia by HakenAshes to Ear by Sun CagedIsolated Incidents by Animals as LeadersSlightly Mad by Magic PieOlat Ha'atamid by Orphaned LandWhen All Is Lost by Symphony XBreaking All Illusions by Dream TheaterPerfect by RedemptionIn the Blink of an Eye (Japanese Bonus Track version off of The Great Escape) by Seventh Wonder

I was expecting something more "classic"... though this lists seem more fit for modern times. I quiet like prog metal, though I'm afraid I still don't know so much besides Dream Theater (now one of my favourite bands) and a couple of albums more, but I'll sure be getting more of them over time. I guess I should find myself some time to listen to that list, there are some bands I'm rather curious about.

Originally posted by dtguitarfan You COULD just download the radio shows from SoundCloud and listen to those lists...great way to sample the bands!

Erm, just a minute - I don't think that's legal.  I'm pretty sure that while you may have paid the relevant authority for a royalty licence to stream those copyrighted tracks on Internet Radio, you cannot make the show available for download.

Originally posted by dtguitarfan Originally posted by Dean Originally posted by dtguitarfan You COULD just download the radio shows from SoundCloud and listen to those lists...great way to sample the bands! Erm, just a minute - I don't think that's legal.  I'm pretty sure that while you may have paid the relevant authority for a royalty licence to stream those copyrighted tracks on Internet Radio, you cannot make the show available for download. Nope, I asked a guy who works for the radio station before I put it on SoundCloud and he said it's, and I quote: "public domain." Might have to do with them being NPR and non-profit.

Sorry, but that's not a good enough explanation. Please remove the SoundCloud links from your posts - what you do is your business, we cannot permit links to downloads of copyright material to show on our site.

Originally posted by Dean Originally posted by dtguitarfan Originally posted by Dean Originally posted by dtguitarfan You COULD just download the radio shows from SoundCloud and listen to those lists...great way to sample the bands! Erm, just a minute - I don't think that's legal.  I'm pretty sure that while you may have paid the relevant authority for a royalty licence to stream those copyrighted tracks on Internet Radio, you cannot make the show available for download. Nope, I asked a guy who works for the radio station before I put it on SoundCloud and he said it's, and I quote: "public domain." Might have to do with them being NPR and non-profit. Sorry, but that's not a good enough explanation. Please remove the SoundCloud links from your posts - what you do is your business, we cannot permit links to downloads of copyright material to show on our site.

Read this thread - I think the NPR people who told me it was ok to post our show on the internet may have been right that it is NOT illegal to do so:
http://forums.cnet.com/7723-7597_102-128943/is-copying-a-radio-stream-illegal/
In light of that, I'd like you to refrain from accusing me of illegal actions.

Originally posted by Textbook Prog doesn't work well on radio for the fact that songs being 10, 20 minutes + screws everything up in terms of pacing and advertising and so on. Late at night or on holidays though when people don't care so much, some classic rock radio stations do take (relatively) mammoth length songs like Funeral For A Friend out of hiding. Radio Hauraki in NZ has done things like play Thick As A Brick and Shine On You Crazy Diamond in their entirety, but like I said earlier, they only do this kind of thing at odd times.

 

Edited by moshkito - March 23 2012 at 12:32