Progarchives.com Homepage
Forum Home Forum Home > Topics not related to music > General discussions
  New Posts New Posts RSS Feed: Libertarian Thread # 3: Liberty will never die
  FAQ FAQ  Forum SearchSearch  Calendar   Register Register  Login Login

Libertarian Thread # 3: Liberty will never die

 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <1 217218219220221 285>
Author
Message
manofmystery View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: January 26 2008
Location: PA, USA
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 3916
Post Options Post Options   Quote manofmystery Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: Libertarian Thread # 3: Liberty will never die
    Posted: July 25 2013 at 16:17
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521

Anton's the Steelers fan. I'm Eagles all the way. Steelers fans are jerks.



Hey, screw you!
At least we don't cheer concussions, boo Santa Claus, or need a jail in our stadium.
Back to Top
manofmystery View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: January 26 2008
Location: PA, USA
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 3916
Post Options Post Options   Quote manofmystery Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 25 2013 at 16:23
Also, did I see a biblical argument break out in god damned () libertarian thread?
Back to Top
dtguitarfan View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: June 24 2011
Location: Chattanooga, TN
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1708
Post Options Post Options   Quote dtguitarfan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2013 at 09:45
Originally posted by manofmystery

Also, did I see a biblical argument break out in god damned () libertarian thread?


"To take the scriptures seriously is not to take them literally. Literalism is invariably the lowest and least level of meaning. Most Biblical authors understood this, which is why they felt totally free to take so many obvious liberties with what we would call "facts." Then the text is true on many levels, instead of trying to prove it is true on just the one simple, factual level. Sacred texts always maximize your possibilities for life and love, which is why we call them sacred."
—Richard Rohr
Back to Top
dtguitarfan View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: June 24 2011
Location: Chattanooga, TN
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1708
Post Options Post Options   Quote dtguitarfan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2013 at 10:17
Back to Top
manofmystery View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: January 26 2008
Location: PA, USA
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 3916
Post Options Post Options   Quote manofmystery Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2013 at 11:14
Pathetic, pathetic human being
Back to Top
dtguitarfan View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: June 24 2011
Location: Chattanooga, TN
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1708
Post Options Post Options   Quote dtguitarfan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2013 at 11:26
Originally posted by manofmystery

Pathetic, pathetic human being

Yes.  That's what idealism does to you.  But there's hope yet!  Wink
Back to Top
manofmystery View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: January 26 2008
Location: PA, USA
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 3916
Post Options Post Options   Quote manofmystery Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2013 at 11:41
You do realize that everything you accuse us of here is exactly what you do every time you enter this thread, right? You simply aren't worth debating because once someone provides you with a serious response you either dig deeper into the partisan nonsense dogma you accept without question or move on to post the next pathetic hatchet job article you found written by some other partisan hack. It shouldn't take a rocket scientist to see that slavery flies directly in the face of everything libertarians believe in and that only government can ok something so ghastly. If you want to talk about Obama and a war on race you can discuss his continued drone slaughter of middle easterners.


By all means keep digging in deeper in the face of everything you believe collapsing the world around us, though.
Back to Top
dtguitarfan View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: June 24 2011
Location: Chattanooga, TN
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1708
Post Options Post Options   Quote dtguitarfan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2013 at 12:05
Originally posted by manofmystery

You do realize that everything you accuse us of here is exactly what you do every time you enter this thread, right? You simply aren't worth debating because once someone provides you with a serious response you either dig deeper into the partisan nonsense dogma you accept without question or move on to post the next pathetic hatchet job article you found written by some other partisan hack. It shouldn't take a rocket scientist to see that slavery flies directly in the face of everything libertarians believe in and that only government can ok something so ghastly. If you want to talk about Obama and a war on race you can discuss his continued drone slaughter of middle easterners.


By all means keep digging in deeper in the face of everything you believe collapsing the world around us, though.

Ah, so "because there is racism over here, that means there isn't racism over there."  That's your argument, eh?

Did ya even read the article?  Probably not.  You're too stuck in your idealism to give it a serious thought.  And you call me pathetic.  Your side is losing, and has been for a long, long time.  Your idealistic values are on the way to extinction.  You're on the wrong side of history.  Poor you.  Until you wake up and realize how much benefit comes from giving up your so called values.  But until then, it's going to suck being you.
Back to Top
dtguitarfan View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: June 24 2011
Location: Chattanooga, TN
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1708
Post Options Post Options   Quote dtguitarfan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2013 at 12:07
Here's a question: do you think there is more "islamaphobia" on the right or on the left?  Is it more socially acceptable to say nice things about muslims on the right or the left?  And if there were any pressure on Obama to do things that were morally wrong to muslims, do you think more of that pressure would be coming from the right or the left?
Back to Top
Padraic View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: February 16 2006
Location: Pennsylvania
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 29307
Post Options Post Options   Quote Padraic Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2013 at 12:21
This was fun for a while, but now it's just boring.
Back to Top
Epignosis View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Eclectic Prog Team

Joined: December 30 2007
Location: Raeford, NC
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 31671
Post Options Post Options   Quote Epignosis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2013 at 12:36
How exciting!

I won a literary anthology from a raffle!  It uses literature to get students thinking about individualism, self-reliance, and what it means to be an American.

It includes three speeches by Calvin Coolidge.  Shocked


Edited by Epignosis - July 26 2013 at 12:37
Back to Top
Ambient Hurricanes View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: December 25 2011
Location: DruryUniversity
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 2527
Post Options Post Options   Quote Ambient Hurricanes Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2013 at 12:48
^What other authors are included?
In blood, he's writing the lyrics of a brand new tune.
Back to Top
Epignosis View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Eclectic Prog Team

Joined: December 30 2007
Location: Raeford, NC
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 31671
Post Options Post Options   Quote Epignosis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2013 at 12:52
Originally posted by Ambient Hurricanes

^What other authors are included?


It runs the gamut of American authors- philosophers, poets, singers, fiction writers...even Johnny Cash is in it!  LOL

Here's the full list:

http://www.whatsoproudlywehail.org/authors
Back to Top
Ambient Hurricanes View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: December 25 2011
Location: DruryUniversity
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 2527
Post Options Post Options   Quote Ambient Hurricanes Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2013 at 12:59
Woody Guthrie and Stevie Wonder too!  Would have liked to see more musicians but...I'm biased I admit Wink.  One thing is obvious from the list, you can't accuse the curriculum's authors of partisanship.

Congrats on the win, btw.
In blood, he's writing the lyrics of a brand new tune.
Back to Top
Epignosis View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Eclectic Prog Team

Joined: December 30 2007
Location: Raeford, NC
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 31671
Post Options Post Options   Quote Epignosis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2013 at 13:04
Big Boi is a Libertarian.

"Well, I was leaving to go out of town and it was a lady -- a Caucasian lady -- and she was like 'oh yeah, congratulations on y'all win last night, you know, with like and attitude.  And, you know, just to let her know I was on my P's and Q's, I was like, 'I don't know what you talkin' bout, I voted for Gary Johnson.' And she looked shocked to even know that I knew there were other candidates on the ballot ... So, you can't judge a book by its cover."

Another reason to like Outkast.  Cool
Back to Top
Equality 7-2521 View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: August 11 2005
Location: Philly
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 15405
Post Options Post Options   Quote Equality 7-2521 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2013 at 13:50
Originally posted by Epignosis

How exciting!

I won a literary anthology from a raffle!  It uses literature to get students thinking about individualism, self-reliance, and what it means to be an American.

It includes three speeches by Calvin Coolidge.  Shocked


Very nice. Hopefully your students appreciate it, which they won't, because they're students.
"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
Back to Top
manofmystery View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: January 26 2008
Location: PA, USA
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 3916
Post Options Post Options   Quote manofmystery Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 27 2013 at 18:16
Originally posted by dtguitarfan

Ah, so "because there is racism over here, that means there isn't racism over there."  That's your argument, eh? Made no argument regarding race, just thought it'd be nice to point out that Obama is killing an awful lot of non-white people. Did ya even read the article?  Probably not.  Yeah, I got the gist of the idiocy behind the article when I scrolled down to the picture used to begin the article. Would've been completely worthless to go beyond that. You're too stuck in your idealism to give it a serious thought.  You really don't see the irony in that statement? Seriously? And you call me pathetic.  Yep Your side is losing, and has been for a long, long time.  Your idealistic values are on the way to extinction.  It is awfully hard to battle against people so invested in power and controlling other's lives, especially when people like you are more than happy to eat their bullsh*t and regurgitate it onto everyone else. I'd rather fight an uphill battle than be a mindless lemming. You're on the wrong side of history. HAHAHAHA. Got your idealist head buried deep in the sand on how we got to where we are today. Don't bother taking a serious look into what got us here, just lap up more Krugman. Poor you. Well, I don't make an awful lot of money and the government steals a good portion of it so, yeah, poor I suppose. Until you wake up and realize how much benefit comes from giving up your so called values. Do I get to live in the house with master?  But until then, it's going to suck being you.

Whether or not my life improves beyond this point at least I can look upon your posts and feel good about myself. You've no desire to learn or grow and certainly have never shown any serious interest in an open exchange of information here. Clearly, your only desire is to continue looking for little angles to attack our ideals, while yours destroy the world around us. Have a lovely day.
Back to Top
dtguitarfan View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: June 24 2011
Location: Chattanooga, TN
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1708
Post Options Post Options   Quote dtguitarfan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 28 2013 at 13:40
Originally posted by manofmystery


Whether or not my life improves beyond this point at least I can look upon your posts and feel good about myself. You've no desire to learn or grow and certainly have never shown any serious interest in an open exchange of information here. Clearly, your only desire is to continue looking for little angles to attack our ideals, while yours destroy the world around us. Have a lovely day.

Right back atcha buddy.  You have no desire to think about history of statistics or what works in this life.  All you care about is clutching at your predetermined identity that is right and everyone else is wrong.
Back to Top
Epignosis View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Eclectic Prog Team

Joined: December 30 2007
Location: Raeford, NC
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 31671
Post Options Post Options   Quote Epignosis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 28 2013 at 14:47
“Special interests win special benefits for themselves because those benefits are concentrated and significant. The costs, dispersed among the general public, are so insignificant to any particular person, that the general public has no vested interest in organizing against it. An extra 25 cents per gallon of orange juice is hardly worth devoting one’s life to opposing, but an extra $100 million per year in profits for the companies involved sure is worth the time to lobby for."

-Tom Woods

Star Parker on DC and its battle against Wal-Mart:

http://townhall.com/columnists/starparker/2013/07/22/dc-politicos-block-walmart-help-special-interests-hurt-the-poor-n1644615/page/full

That's what's so beautiful about the free market.  Until DC can start forcing Wal-Mart to open stores there, Wal-Mart doesn't have to abide by their silly (protectionist) mandate, so obviously advocated by special interest groups.

Kevin Roose's reaction to this news gave me a chuckle:

"D.C. didn't prohibit Walmart from setting up stores in the district (and there will still be three, even after the abandoned ones), but it did put in place what amounted to a fairly expensive penalty for doing so."

I quote this because Roose uses a word that I think is telling: "Penalty."  This implies that the purpose of the act is not to help low-wage workers (which it won't anyway), but to penalize Wal-Mart, and specifically Wal-Mart.

Even Franklin Garcia, founder and President of the DC Latino Caucus, called this a bad idea:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/franklin-garcia/the-large-retailer-accoun_b_3655607.html
Back to Top
dtguitarfan View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: June 24 2011
Location: Chattanooga, TN
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1708
Post Options Post Options   Quote dtguitarfan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 28 2013 at 15:25
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <1 217218219220221 285>

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Bulletin Board Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 9.69
Copyright ©2001-2010 Web Wiz

This page was generated in 0.594 seconds.