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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 29 2012 at 12:57
Not a very strong argument for protectionism.
Well wasn't much there at all...

Read a book who's basic premise was protectionism/free trade have impacts of course but countries have seen varying levels of success with both. It's as much to do with internal/regional/individual business factors as trade policy itself does.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 29 2012 at 12:59
Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

Pat Buchanan generally makes me want to run far away from anything he says. Has a bit of a "moral conservative" streak in him, which is the worst sh*t out there, and is just one of those paranoid people I think.

Wants to just wall us off and cower in the corner worrying about what other people thousands of miles away are doing.
Other people are scary.

OK maybe a bit much, but that's just how he strikes me.


The fear surrounding Buchanan's really puzzles me. He most of the time offers nothing but really practical political advice and relevant history. He's analysis of U.S. Foreign affairs usually hits the nail right on the head.

His weakness would be political philosophy and economics. He's right sometimes and kinda far off other times, but I don't think he's ever a bumbling idiot or some extreme radical. He happens to be wrong on protectionism and his support of Hamilton's programs in general.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 29 2012 at 13:07
You're right, and I do like a lot of his views of Foreign Policy. I also appreciate he's not a "mindless drone" Republican, as in bashing the Dems and all "left" but will kiss the ass of GOP even if they did the same.

Maybe I'm wrong but just seems like he comes to his conclusions from a position of paranoia and other people are scary. Just strikes me as a moral conservative...and I hate them
He's not wrong on everything or even the worst person out there, not by far


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 29 2012 at 17:20
Did any of you guys read James Rickard's book Currency wars? 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 30 2012 at 08:37
I heard much about it, but I never actually got around to reading it. It seemed less theoretical than I usually enjoy in that sort of publication. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 30 2012 at 19:13
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

I heard much about it, but I never actually got around to reading it. It seemed less theoretical than I usually enjoy in that sort of publication. 

Well it basically says all the obvious stuff, but it speaks to all of the business people and ones who are interested to what's happening in the United States. Written from an Austrian school perspective. Highly recommended by Tom Coburn.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 31 2012 at 10:57
Yes. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 31 2012 at 11:08
Where you been?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 31 2012 at 11:14
At my sister's in Switzerland for a couple weeks, then back and lacking words.... Tongue
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 31 2012 at 12:05
Welcome back Teo, glad you had a great trip.  Smile

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 31 2012 at 12:51
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

At my sister's in Switzerland for a couple weeks, then back and lacking words.... Tongue

I went to Switzerland a while ago. Where did you go exactly?


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 31 2012 at 13:37
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

At my sister's in Switzerland for a couple weeks, then back and lacking words.... Tongue


BUT OMG THERE SO SOCIALIST HOW DID YOU WORK UP THE COURAGE TWO GO THEIR?


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 31 2012 at 14:12
There are too many things to be said regarding that... And regarding how different cultures and peoples might be better off under different systems...

And how sorry the state of the US really is...

By the way King my sister lives in Winznau, little town near Olten, an hour from Zurich, 15 minutes from Luzern, both cities which I visited, besides amazing Germany.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 31 2012 at 17:03
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

There are too many things to be said regarding that... And regarding how different cultures and peoples might be better off under different systems...

And how sorry the state of the US really is...

By the way King my sister lives in Winznau, little town near Olten, an hour from Zurich, 15 minutes from Luzern, both cities which I visited, besides amazing Germany.

I completely agree with your first statement, but unfortunately it is what it is, right? And how there is now going to be massive global booms and busts..... That's how I always look at things these days.....

Cool, are you originally of German descent? One of my good friends from high school comes from Hamburg and we went backpacking around Germany....I tend to try to enjoy the good side of things that a country has to offer with natural beauty the foremost attraction.....









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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 31 2012 at 19:27
There's not one inch of German blood in my body though you can say I've always felt linked to that great nation. In Ecuador (in South America in general) there are lots of schools (they ran from 1st to 12th grade, there's no division like in the US) that are sponsored by and teach like specific European nations and cultures. There is an Alianz Francaise, there's even an American School (curiously, their students hav ethe reputation of being the most materialistic, money-driven of all), and of course there is a Deutsche Schule, or German school, where germans living in Ecuador can put their children in an all-German 12-year school path, or anybody else can put their children in a 12 year path where they will learn German starting in 3rd grade all the way up to 12th, where they will start learning chemistry (of all things) in German by 8th grade, and where the entire thing will be molded like in Germany. I was put in that school from Kindergarten, so I actually had 14 years of German-style education. Also, my sister went to the same school and she migrated the Germany 20 years ago (she is 41). She lives in Switzerland since three years ago more or less. I've always loved Germany, and its culture. All my main musical culture (my main passion) is Germanic in origin too (see below). But no, I've no Teutonic past. I always root for Germany in the World Cup every four years of course. Few people that go to the Deutsche Schule leave it hating Germany. On the contrary. And even fewer will hate it after visinting that mighty nation twice (I was there in 1997 but this time, older and much wiser, was so much better).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 31 2012 at 21:10
Well, my friend's predecessors come from an old German merchant family in Hamburg and the experiences that their family shared with me is probably different from your Germanophile tendencies. I'm afraid they've lost their German pride after their family got ridiculously wealthy and now they're all not so wealthy anymore... due to some events that we all know....They love their culture and their heritage, but they are upset by the current world events that are happening. I think it's completely out of control of us the common people. Even though they're Teutonic warriors inside, I think there was a common consensus that what we share that traditional culture might be lost forever.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 31 2012 at 21:12
Western civilization is collapsing around us... And yes, that sickens me.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 31 2012 at 21:13
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Western civilization is collapsing around us... And yes, that sickens me.

It's not just Western Civilization.....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 31 2012 at 21:15
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:


Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

Pat Buchanan generally makes me want to run far away from anything he says. Has a bit of a "moral conservative" streak in him, which is the worst sh*t out there, and is just one of those paranoid people I think. Wants to just wall us off and cower in the corner worrying about what other people thousands of miles away are doing. Other people are scary. OK maybe a bit much, but that's just how he strikes me.

The fear surrounding Buchanan's really puzzles me. He most of the time offers nothing but really practical political advice and relevant history. He's analysis of U.S. Foreign affairs usually hits the nail right on the head. His weakness would be political philosophy and economics. He's right sometimes and kinda far off other times, but I don't think he's ever a bumbling idiot or some extreme radical. He happens to be wrong on protectionism and his support of Hamilton's programs in general.
I used to think he was so different from what he actually is. I actually love most of what he writes. I'm reading "Churchill, Hitler and the Unnecessary war" right now and so far I agree with him in every single word. I also have his latest book waiting on my shelves. I agree with him moat of the times.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 31 2012 at 21:16
Originally posted by King of Loss King of Loss wrote:


Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Western civilization is collapsing around us... And yes, that sickens me.

It's not just Western Civilization.....
My tears are reserved, from a cultural point of view, to western culture. Of course many other things in other aspects of life are collapsing too.
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