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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 07 2012 at 13:01
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Counterpoint the surrealism of the underlying metaphor.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 07 2012 at 13:10
Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Counterpoint the surrealism of the underlying metaphor.
 
Can I quote that?
 
 
3-Dimentional Surrealism ... Escher! ... woootttt .... I think Luis Bunuel fits! Music? ... no one!
Not without citing Douglas Adams as the original author Wink LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 07 2012 at 13:24
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Counterpoint the surrealism of the underlying metaphor.
 
Can I quote that?
 
 
3-Dimentional Surrealism ... Escher! ... woootttt .... I think Luis Bunuel fits! Music? ... no one!
Not without citing Douglas Adams as the original author Wink LOL

I would never have claimed it as my own.Tongue
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 07 2012 at 13:36
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Counterpoint the surrealism of the underlying metaphor.
 
Can I quote that?
 
 
3-Dimentional Surrealism ... Escher! ... woootttt .... I think Luis Bunuel fits! Music? ... no one!
Not without citing Douglas Adams as the original author Wink LOL

I would never have claimed it as my own.Tongue
And I would never accuse you of such - it's just been nagging at the back of my mind all afternoon until I finally twigged where it came from LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 08 2012 at 14:12
I'm behind in recent year's prog, but I can say that there are great counterpoints in classic prog, a clear case being classic Yes. In CTTE for example there are quite some phrases which are at some initial point played on their own but then get assembled together being transposed or combined to form complex melodical and harmonical textures.
Classic Genesis had quite a few of these too.
Funnily ELP, as classically influenced as they were had less of this type of counterpoint, but they explored more the actual fugue pattern like in The Only Way or Trilogy's Fugue.
 
A Fugue is a more specific musical figure in which a melodical pattern is repeated starting in different beats of the bar, or in the next bar, creating a complex harmonic soundscape. Indeed ELP's The Only Way or Trilogy's Fugue are examples of it.
 
In a more modern environment, Yes's 91205 has some great counterpoint parts. 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 11 2012 at 12:48
Gentle Giant is the first name that comes to mind (On Reflection is a wonderful fugue), but I think you should enjoy some miRthkon and Yezda Urfa. Also try with Picchio dal Pozzo and Yugen.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 30 2014 at 15:27
Originally posted by Smurph Smurph wrote:

So, what bands write fugues? I can't find ANY as I search the net. It's depressing.
 

Kansas used to include fugue sections in some of their songs in the seventies. I think there are some short 2 and 3-part fugues in "Magnum Opus", and short 3 and 4-part fugue in the middle of "Miracles Out of Nowhere" (both from Leftoverture, 1977). Also a short 2-parter in "Icarus". I think. I'm not a music theorist.


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