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progprogprog
Forum Senior Member Joined: December 05 2011 Status: Offline Points: 279 |
Posted: March 07 2012 at 19:14 | |||
There's a slight possibility that you haven't read this yet:
http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive-rock.asp#definition |
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Always thinking in extremes.That's my way to beat boredom.
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javier0889
Forum Senior Member Joined: March 21 2010 Location: Chile Status: Offline Points: 170 |
Posted: March 07 2012 at 19:34 | |||
I still think it's beautiful music played by ugly people with too much hair (and sometimes not where it's supposed to be).
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http://www.last.fm/user/javier0889
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Ambient Hurricanes
Forum Senior Member Joined: December 25 2011 Location: internet Status: Offline Points: 2549 |
Posted: March 07 2012 at 22:12 | |||
^So in other words, it's just like classical music (although most of the hair was really wigs).
Someone should start a prog band where all the members wear powdered wigs
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I love dogs, I've always loved dogs
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frippism
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Posted: March 08 2012 at 01:21 | |||
Excuse me, but I'm pretty sure that listing the date in the very logical way of day-month-year, is a bit more logical than month-day-year. Along with the mile, Farenheit, Gallon, Blablubla, I think the rest of the world wins this one.
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There be dragons
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Atavachron
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Posted: March 08 2012 at 01:28 | |||
^ funny stuff
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octopus-4
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Posted: March 08 2012 at 02:19 | |||
Astronomy Domine is in 12/8, a stellar date for Capt. Kirk.
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Curiosity killed a cat, Schroedinger only half.
My poor home recorded stuff at https://yellingxoanon.bandcamp.com |
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CPicard
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Posted: March 08 2012 at 03:46 | |||
This guy is right and I'm with him. May the meter and the kilogramm be the universal measures! |
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AtomicCrimsonRush
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Posted: March 08 2012 at 03:53 | |||
Its all very easy really Prog is not rocket science:
Progressive Rock What the heck is it???Progressive Rock is an attempt to musically orgasm as many times as possible during a 15-minute song. Just The Facts
Everything You Need to Know About Progressive RockThere is no clear definition of progressive rock, as it is not bounded by convention, structure, tradition or common sense. Progressive rock is like the anti-socialite of music; there are no rules or restrictions. However, progressive rock bands have typically featured:
Basically, progressive rock is anything-goes rock music. If you feel like adding a 30-second audio clip of some farm animals orgasming in the middle of your song, that's a-ok by progressive standards. Hell, it's even encouraged. Literally anything you can record a sound of is welcome in progressive rock. Except autotune. Read more: Progressive Rock | Cracked.com http://www.cracked.com/funny-2359-progressive-rock/#ixzz1oW9T974Z Edited by AtomicCrimsonRush - March 08 2012 at 03:55 |
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Dean
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Posted: March 08 2012 at 04:11 | |||
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What?
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Snow Dog
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Posted: March 08 2012 at 04:12 | |||
Had to delete cuz Dean's post got in the way.
Edited by Snow Dog - March 08 2012 at 04:37 |
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Blacksword
Prog Reviewer Joined: June 22 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 16130 |
Posted: March 08 2012 at 04:35 | |||
But isn't Money in 7/4? ^^^^ Take note, dtguitarfan, this is what you call 'prog pedancy' As for my definition of prog. Mental. |
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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progprogprog
Forum Senior Member Joined: December 05 2011 Status: Offline Points: 279 |
Posted: March 08 2012 at 06:30 | |||
Epic post Scott
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Always thinking in extremes.That's my way to beat boredom.
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Dean
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Posted: March 08 2012 at 06:38 | |||
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What?
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Vibrationbaby
Forum Senior Member Joined: February 13 2004 Status: Offline Points: 6898 |
Posted: March 08 2012 at 07:14 | |||
i didn't even know progrock existed before i happened across this site back in 2004. I had just bought my first computer and wanted to see if I could find anything about Hungarian nband Omegs. I said to myself " so that's what I've been listening to all these years " .
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moshkito
Forum Senior Member Joined: January 04 2007 Location: Grok City Status: Offline Points: 16039 |
Posted: March 08 2012 at 07:14 | |||
I would venture to state that this grew out of the 60's in many places. There was a lot of "progressive" music in France/Paris, just like there was in US/LA, or US/NY, or US/SF ... however, the US version is all buried in Woodstock with all the garbage. No one remembers anything and the music was not important or valuable at all ... we were too stoned and drunk and having fun to give a darn! Japan also had its own version, influenced by the rock generation as well.
We might discuss the UFO and other clubs that helped make this, but we probably should give the Filmore West a serious consideration, although we tend to think of Grateful Dead's 4 to 5 hour excusrions, or Allman Brothers same long excursions as not valid, and just another styled In a Gadda's. Some were. Some weren't. But then, a lot of that early English stuff was also just an extended pop song ... or an extended solo in the middle, and I'm not sure that really helps the "definition" of "progressive music".
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Vibrationbaby
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Posted: March 08 2012 at 07:15 | |||
]i didn't even know progrock existed before I happened across this site back in 2004. I had just bought my first computer and wanted to see if I could find anything about Hungarian nband Omegs. I said to myself " so that's what I've been listening to all these years " .
[/QUOTE] i still scratch my head over all these invented subgenres.
Edited by Vibrationbaby - March 08 2012 at 07:21 |
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moshkito
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Posted: March 08 2012 at 07:20 | |||
Nice ... very nice!
And if someone adds music, paint or words to it fine ... and we would probably call it "progressive" ... but I'm trying out this new kick that if you have to use a metronome and measure the music, it definitly is not progressive. It's either commercial or pop!
Hehehe!
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dtguitarfan
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Posted: March 08 2012 at 09:02 | |||
Ok, so this is cool because I've read the definition they have up on progarchives and the one from cracked that atmiccrimsonrush posted. When my buddies and I did our radio shows on NPR we tried to condense the definition for the sake of time. I think there are 4 qualifications that separate a progressive band or artist from the rest of their genre (so there can be progressive jazz, progressive folk, etc.). They are: 1) a composition style that flows more like a narrative than poetry (verse/chorus/verse/chorus) 2) Longer songs 3) Instrumental sections, sometimes very technical 4) The usage of uncommon time signatures (compound time)
I would say to be progressive, a band or artist doesn't have to display all 4 of these, but they have to at least have #1 or #4, or else people could qualify jam bands as Prog. Now I've heard some people use the definition that a progressive band is one that continually changes it's style from album to album, or progresses. I disagree because then a band that switched from jazz to polka to alt. rock would be progressive. I've also heard people say "(fill in the blank) band is not progressive because they sound like another band." I don't agree with that either because that would mean there are very few truly progressive artists and they all lived thousands of years ago. But I'm sure there are plenty of people who disagree with my definition of orog...so, whatever. ;-) |
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Gerinski
Prog Reviewer Joined: February 10 2010 Location: Barcelona Spain Status: Offline Points: 5087 |
Posted: March 08 2012 at 13:37 | |||
It's something we can not describe but we can recognize when we hear it, a bit like what physicists say about quantum mechanics (replace "hear it" by "see it" or better "detect it with our instruments or experiments").
When are we starting the discussion about the difference between "Prog" and "Progressive"?
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CPicard
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Posted: March 08 2012 at 13:52 | |||
Everything stuck between Psychedelic folies and Post Punk fury.
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