Prog Definition

frippism wrote: Snow Dog wrote: dtguitarfan wrote: .....in THIS genre, it IS important to know the difference between crap and good music. Really? What is crap music? What is good? Anything after Dec. 31st, 1979, is the spawn of Satan. That's a fact.

What about this album, released in December 1969 by Deram, just three months after In The Court Of The Crimson King?

Edited by octopus-4 - March 11 2012 at 13:00

Evolver wrote: For a thread about a style of music women don't like, this one sure has a lot of discussion aboutr mensuration.                           ...nevermind

javier0889 wrote: Evolver wrote: For a thread about a style of music women don't like, this one sure has a lot of discussion aboutr mensuration.                           ...nevermind that's so true I mean... does it really matter what the dictionary says about prog? Just shut up and listen to the damn albums, yeah

I always preferred the term "art rock" myself.

infandous wrote: I always preferred the term "art rock" myself.

 

No surprice someone will put up a tread like this every 3 - 5 months

Gerinski wrote:   I wrote out of memory and after a quick check I concede that you are right, apparently it was the LM team in Denver Colorado who used imperial units (sorry for calling them "british"). In any case this brings doubts about your statement that "a UK-based engineering company would never use imperial measurements for anything", surely LM Colorado used imperial units because of some reason, even if they were based in the US, and the first idea to come to mind is because their mother headquarter company is UK based?

Nah, Lockheed and Martin were wholly US owned and the merged company's HQ is in Maryland. The USA still uses archaic imperial units though they call them US Customary Units (inches, feet, miles, pounds, foot-pounds, etc.) [wiki/United_States_customary_units] though most US industries have converted to the metric system in recent years due to cock-ups like the MCO and the need to conform with the rest of the world if they want to do business. One obvious sign of the USA hanging on to the old ways is they still sell petrol by the gallon, whereas the UK is by the litre.  

Dean wrote: Gerinski wrote:   I wrote out of memory and after a quick check I concede that you are right, apparently it was the LM team in Denver Colorado who used imperial units (sorry for calling them "british"). In any case this brings doubts about your statement that "a UK-based engineering company would never use imperial measurements for anything", surely LM Colorado used imperial units because of some reason, even if they were based in the US, and the first idea to come to mind is because their mother headquarter company is UK based?   Nah, Lockheed and Martin were wholly US owned and the merged company's HQ is in Maryland. The USA still uses archaic imperial units though they call them US Customary Units (inches, feet, miles, pounds, foot-pounds, etc.) [wiki/United_States_customary_units] though most US industries have converted to the metric system in recent years due to cock-ups like the MCO and the need to conform with the rest of the world if they want to do business. One obvious sign of the USA hanging on to the old ways is they still sell petrol by the gallon, whereas the UK is by the litre.

You win, I have no problem with that, I was just trying to be more pedantic than I really am 

Edited by Gerinski - March 14 2012 at 17:12

moshkito wrote: infandous wrote: I always preferred the term "art rock" myself.   In retrospect I do too. Specially as it shows an inclination to do more than just something that is as defined as what has become known as "progressive".   I think the biggest isse, is that some of the folks came from the Sex Pistols and Iggy Pop school and then others were thrashing like the heathens ... and then the word "art rock" started taking a hit. But I have to tell you that back in the day in Southern California, we used to call all these "imports" ... not anything else! Why? You could not get them in any other form!   And then 1974 and 1975 arrived!

I would prefer that label too, it kind of defines better what I like about prog. Though, then perhaps the bands listed as prog may end up being somewhat different. I would say that something like Cat Steven's "Tea for the Tillerman" would fit in the description of "Art Rock". Plus, as a matter of fact, all music is art, the quality of the art is what differs (and then, the quality of the art is measured by whomever is listening).