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    Posted: March 19 2012 at 20:47
Originally posted by catfood03

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I'm a supporter of the LGBT community and I like to honor their spokespeople such as Harvey Milk, Neil Patrick Harris, Elton John, and Ellen DeGeneres.


As a gay man I thank you for your support. My first post on this website asked about gays in progressive rock, but from your OP I see this question was asked before my time here.

My impression that Prog Rock fans would be more open-minded than their "non-Prog-Rock" counterparts. I think this is proving true.

I've had that assumption too, considering that progressive rock kind of encourages intelligence to some degree, and I believe intelligence encourages equality. I could be wrong, but that's how I see it personally.


My assumption was based on what I perceived as "feminine" qualities of Prog Rock, like extended flute-solos or the overly theatrical clothing and staging of some of the concert performances. I think I remember Tony Banks referring to Wind and Wuthering as a "feminine" album.

Even Yes named one of their albums "Drama"!  HellllOOOooo! Wink

LOL Well that all makes sense too.
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How about the Israeli band Sheshet? They made an excellent album back in the late '70s.

Yehudit Ravitz, their lead singer, has made a successful music career in her country, she declared helserf openly lesbian, is currently living with her partner and their two kids.

And she sings great, btw:
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Originally posted by catfood03



If we are going to go within and outside the parameters of Progressive Rock for openly gay artists then we'd have quite a seemingly endless list. Smile

Well...there are certain areas where the term "progressive" overlaps with other musical forms.  Husker Du were pioneers in the Minneapolis sound of the day, as was Prince....they didn't use Mellotrons nor synth, but they charted some new musical territory.   Minneapolis was VERY into Fripp during the "Exposure" project, and his other pre-Discipline work as well.  

And I disagree about the "endless list"....the music biz is still very anti-gay, from what I'm told.  It's a dog-eat-dog corporate world, and the white guy suits who run it only love their money.  They have no real love for gays, unless they can start some kind of fad.  

I'm sure there are gay prog musicians who just stay on the down-low to protect their fan base and business relationships.  Sad but true.  
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I'm sure there are gay prog musicians who just stay on the down-low to protect their fan base and business relationships.  Sad but true.  

It is indeed upsetting that people feel the need to hide their true selves Cry
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Prince, like David Bowie or Brian Eno, is not actually an LGBT artist but one that either implied they were as part of their image or was assumed to be because of their sensibilities. In reality, Prince is a raging heterosexual and can't get enough of the ladies.
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Prince, like David Bowie or Brian Eno, is not actually an LGBT artist but one that either implied they were as part of their image or was assumed to be because of their sensibilities. In reality, Prince is a raging heterosexual and can't get enough of the ladies.
 
Has that guy dated some amazingly hot hot hot ladies or what? Apollonia and Sheila Escovedo aka Sheila E...I still crush over those two!
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Originally posted by colorofmoney91

Originally posted by cstack3



I'm sure there are gay prog musicians who just stay on the down-low to protect their fan base and business relationships.  Sad but true.  

It is indeed upsetting that people feel the need to hide their true selves Cry

I don't think it's so much a matter of being in hiding but rather keeping their personal lives a personal matter.  Certainly sad that mainstream society makes it an issue. Unhappy
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Business relationships are usually exactly what prog musicians don't have to protect.
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Originally posted by Lima96

How about the Israeli band Sheshet? They made an excellent album back in the late '70s.


Interesting find. Not my cup of tea, but glad to hear a new band I previously knew nothing from before.
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Lindsay Cooper, bassoonist for Henry Cow, is a lesbian.
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Not prog but it's interesting that David Geffen, one of music's most powerful people, is openly gay and no one ever comments on it.
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I'm not a gay, I never had homosexual desires and I never experimented with that, but I have nothing against LGBT population,  their subculture and that political movement, so don't take me wrong when I say that many of Progressive Rock albums, for example Genesis' ATTWT sounds pretty "gay" to me.

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I think that we should care of an artist's sexual preferences only when they are reflected into his/her music and lyrics, otherwise who cares?
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Originally posted by octopus-4

I think that we should care of an artist's sexual preferences only when they are reflected into his/her music and lyrics, otherwise who cares?


That's an interesting opinion. For example, although Michael Stipe came out I don't think of REM as a "gay" band because their songs have been mostly about politics and not love and sex.
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I'm probably repeating myself but the music matters much more than if an artist is gay or not.  I mean, is there such a thing as gay music anyway?


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Originally posted by octopus-4

I think that we should care of an artist's sexual preferences only when they are reflected into his/her music and lyrics, otherwise who cares?

That's what the very first post says, and I'm glad you agree.
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Originally posted by Slartibartfast

I'm probably repeating myself but the music matters much more than if an artist is gay or not.  I mean, is there such a thing as gay music anyway?
 
 
I'm probably repeating myself but the music matters much more than if an artist is gay or not.  I mean, is there such a thing as gay music anyway?
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Originally posted by dennismoore

Originally posted by Slartibartfast

I'm probably repeating myself but the music matters much more than if an artist is gay or not.  I mean, is there such a thing as gay music anyway?
 
 
I'm probably repeating myself but the music matters much more than if an artist is gay or not.  I mean, is there such a thing as gay music anyway?

Probably.
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Back in the early 1970's, the record company execs had identified "homo-erotic" acts as potential lures for new audiences (particularly young teen boys who wanted to p*ss their parents off!).   I remember all the suggestive articles about Alice Cooper, David Bowie, Marc Bolan etc. in industry rags like Circus, Creem etc.  

Case in point:  Mick Ronson & David Bowie, "Spiders from Mars" era -



Mercifully, prog seemed to have escaped this fate & made it on its own musical merits!   


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Originally posted by rushfan4

Originally posted by dennismoore

Originally posted by Slartibartfast

I'm probably repeating myself but the music matters much more than if an artist is gay or not.  I mean, is there such a thing as gay music anyway?
 
 
I'm probably repeating myself but the music matters much more than if an artist is gay or not.  I mean, is there such a thing as gay music anyway?

Probably.


Thanks exactly what I was thinking. Wink
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