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Luqueasaur 
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Joined: December 05 2016 Location: Brazil Status: Offline Points: 32 |
 Topic: Rating abuse in several artists albumsPosted: July 09 2017 at 10:29 |
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Sadly this issue hasn't been resolved yet because rating bots are still out there...
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Chris S
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: June 09 2004 Location: Front Range Status: Offline Points: 7028 |
Posted: March 22 2014 at 14:45 |
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^ But there is a weighting system, surely?
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...As I venture through the slipstream, between the viaducts in your dreams...[/COLOR] |
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tamijo
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Joined: January 06 2009 Location: Denmark Status: Offline Points: 4287 |
Posted: March 22 2014 at 07:59 |
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Yes, they got nice ratings from the reviews, so its not like they manipulated themself into a top spot, and they are entitled to promote their music, what sticks in my eyes, is how obvious it is to them, that they should use the weakness in PA's rating system (anyone can rate without much effort) , if they want to stay on top of the list.
Edited by tamijo - March 22 2014 at 07:59 |
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Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours
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Chris S
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: June 09 2004 Location: Front Range Status: Offline Points: 7028 |
Posted: March 22 2014 at 05:51 |
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Besides even 10 review manipulations for one album will hardly dent overall ratings. The big picture will always come through in the end
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...As I venture through the slipstream, between the viaducts in your dreams...[/COLOR] |
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Guldbamsen
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Retired Admin Joined: January 22 2009 Location: Magic Theatre Status: Offline Points: 23098 |
Posted: March 22 2014 at 05:33 |
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 Any man who is able to respond intelligently whilst making reference to bananas is gold in my book. and he is, of course, totally right as well. Sure music has and always will be a commodity, but when you start slinging it out like this, then it gets to be too much for me. I do not think it breaks any guidelines though. |
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“The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”
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ExittheLemming
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Joined: October 19 2007 Location: Penal Colony Status: Offline Points: 11415 |
Posted: March 22 2014 at 03:20 |
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I can understand why this irks you so but I'm afraid there is nothing inherently wrong in inviting people to be favourable about your 'product'. After all (and this is the bit that maybe sticks in both our throats) they appear entirely unfazed that their art has been reduced to a commodity that obeys the same laws of supply and demand as that of bananas. (Although bananas are perishable, not digital so it's a crap analogy  ) I'm old enough to remember when musicians were supposed to have precisely zero business acumen. Now it seems it's me whose hopelessly out of step and it's actually tertiary qualified entrepreneurs with DAWS who stand the only chance of longevity? Just waiting for the music software boffins to release a plug in for Pro Tools called 'Edgy Angst Dissolution V 2.0'Edited by ExittheLemming - March 22 2014 at 03:22 |
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tamijo
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Joined: January 06 2009 Location: Denmark Status: Offline Points: 4287 |
Posted: March 22 2014 at 02:57 |
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https://www.facebook.com/perfectbeingsband
Take a look at this, sad how a band, seemingly serious about their music, actively asking for people to create an account and rate the album. Another example that ratings without review is abused to the point whereyou cant trust PA's ratings anymore. |
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Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours
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twseel
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Joined: December 15 2012 Location: abroad Status: Offline Points: 22767 |
Posted: May 29 2013 at 09:14 |
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This is obvious abuse: http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=19023
Too bad for that one last review, because that was actually a good and reasonable review.
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 27 2004 Location: Peru Status: Offline Points: 19535 |
Posted: March 25 2013 at 10:42 |
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Mystical, this guys Parafulmini is a liar No streaming site has all the albums by PFM, Banco, Genesis, ELP, Rush, etc availlable. Plus, if you hated 3 albums of a band, you don't listen the other 20
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octopus-4
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RIO/Avant/Zeuhl,Neo & Post/Math Teams Joined: October 31 2006 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 13355 |
Posted: March 25 2013 at 07:34 |
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But he loves Area...
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Curiosity killed a cat, Schroedinger only half.
My poor home recorded stuff at https://yellingxoanon.bandcamp.com |
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The Mystical
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Joined: May 20 2012 Status: Offline Points: 604 |
Posted: March 25 2013 at 06:30 |
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Lol, I'm not gonna pretend that I have bought every prog album I have ever listened to...Progstreaming? Spotify?
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I am currently digging:
Hawkwind, Rare Bird, Gong, Tangerine Dream, Khan, Iron Butterfly, and all things canterbury and hard-psych. I also love jazz! Please drop me a message with album suggestions. |
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Ivan_Melgar_M
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 27 2004 Location: Peru Status: Offline Points: 19535 |
Posted: March 25 2013 at 01:58 |
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Well.
I always ask myself If somebody dislikes two albums of a band, enough to rate them with 1 star...WHY IN THE HELL DOES HE/SHE BUY ALL THEIR ALBUMS? This guy parafulmini hates all PFM, but he wants us to believe he bought 18? Even more, he says he bought 22 Banco del Mutuo Soccorso just to rate all of them with one star Unless he's a bloody masochist, he never heard more than one album, maybe two. Iván PS: The Mystical, I find your ratings fair, mostly because you tell us what you think in your review.
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DamoXt7942
Forum & Site Admin Group
Avant/Cross/Neo/Post Teams Joined: October 15 2008 Location: Okayama, Japan Status: Offline Points: 17459 |
Posted: March 24 2013 at 21:26 |
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Look, afraid this is a rating manipulation or something.
http://www.progarchives.com/album-reviews.asp?id=35306 The 10 members with 4 or 5 stars have joined a while before.  |
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The Mystical
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Joined: May 20 2012 Status: Offline Points: 604 |
Posted: March 23 2013 at 21:42 |
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Yeah it is just that PA is rather strict about their guidelines.
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I am currently digging:
Hawkwind, Rare Bird, Gong, Tangerine Dream, Khan, Iron Butterfly, and all things canterbury and hard-psych. I also love jazz! Please drop me a message with album suggestions. |
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ExittheLemming
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Joined: October 19 2007 Location: Penal Colony Status: Offline Points: 11415 |
Posted: March 23 2013 at 20:48 |
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If your ratings are sincere why would you need to ask others to confirm their appropriateness? Why do you think we allow you to submit your opinions in the first place? |
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Finnforest
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 03 2007 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 16913 |
Posted: March 23 2013 at 20:46 |
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Guess he won't be joining us in the Den.....  |
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The Mystical
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Joined: May 20 2012 Status: Offline Points: 604 |
Posted: March 23 2013 at 20:26 |
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Btw, can you guys please check out my profile and tell me if my ratings are appropriate? I have only got ratings with reviews.
Edited by The Mystical - March 23 2013 at 20:27 |
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I am currently digging:
Hawkwind, Rare Bird, Gong, Tangerine Dream, Khan, Iron Butterfly, and all things canterbury and hard-psych. I also love jazz! Please drop me a message with album suggestions. |
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The Mystical
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Joined: May 20 2012 Status: Offline Points: 604 |
Posted: March 23 2013 at 20:24 |
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I get the feeling that this person doesn't like RPI....
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I am currently digging:
Hawkwind, Rare Bird, Gong, Tangerine Dream, Khan, Iron Butterfly, and all things canterbury and hard-psych. I also love jazz! Please drop me a message with album suggestions. |
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octopus-4
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RIO/Avant/Zeuhl,Neo & Post/Math Teams Joined: October 31 2006 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 13355 |
Posted: March 23 2013 at 03:03 |
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Well spot!
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Curiosity killed a cat, Schroedinger only half.
My poor home recorded stuff at https://yellingxoanon.bandcamp.com |
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 27 2004 Location: Peru Status: Offline Points: 19535 |
Posted: March 23 2013 at 01:36 |
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