Most influential Prog Bands

Behold.... what is perhaps the most influential prog band (personally) that I have ever heard.

Originally posted by dr wu23 Originally posted by brainstormer No one influenced King Crimson, I think that's what KC fans are saying.      Which KC fans are saying that...?    Fripp claims the music just flowed through the orignal members from some mystical realm.

Yeah. It's called psychedelics. Magic schrooooooooooooooms indeed!

Originally posted by humor4u1959 Forgive me, but I don't know what you folks are smoking! It's a fact that Procol Harum started the whole prog movement. This is history folks, not simply my opinion. Do some research and you'll come to the same conclusion. Sure, had it not been Procol, some band would have done it. But, the fact is that THEY did it! End of story.

Originally posted by StyLaZyn Originally posted by humor4u1959 Forgive me, but I don't know what you folks are smoking! It's a fact that Procol Harum started the whole prog movement. This is history folks, not simply my opinion. Do some research and you'll come to the same conclusion. Sure, had it not been Procol, some band would have done it. But, the fact is that THEY did it! End of story. This must be a troll type post.

I wouldn't bet on that. I am taking a wild stab in the dark here, but my guess is that he is an old time fan who apparently has come to the conclusion, that music can be judged subjectively(as long as it's according to what he says).

Edited by Guldbamsen - April 30 2013 at 06:17

I'd argue that Black Sabbath are prog metal's fathers.

Edited by Stool Man - April 30 2013 at 03:47

This isn't about who was first, it's about who was most influential.  So it's possible that someone like Marillion having success at a time when prog was 'fading' was inspirational to other new prog kids on the block.  It didn't have to be old music by old players, it was possible for unknowns to start something new and still be prog.  So new that we've named it as a subgenre of its own (not that they called it that at the time, but hey)  Since there are seemingly many more prog bands in recent years than there were in the 70s, then maybe Marillion were more influential (or were influential on more new bands) than anyone of old.  Other neo prog bands may have been earlier than them, but Marillion were appearing on TV and getting heard by teenagers for whom Pink Floyd were that band that sang the "Hey teacher, leave them kids alone" song.

Forgive me, but I don't know what you folks are smoking! It's a fact that Procol Harum started the whole prog movement. This is history folks, not simply my opinion. Do some research and you'll come to the same conclusion.

Sure, had it not been Procol, some band would have done it. But, the fact is that THEY did it! End of story.

Edited by humor4u1959 - April 30 2013 at 01:20

Originally posted by Dean Originally posted by brainstormer There seems to be two type of progressive rock.  Progressive elements in the rock song structure (think Beatles, Moody Blues -- it has classical thrown in but the classical doesn't effect the song structure).   And Progressive Rock that is structurally different than rock music but has elements of rock.  This is why I think The Nice and the Electric Prunes were the first, with some Zappa.  The Moody Blues tunes are almost all simpler rock melodies, or MOR melodies from earlier 60's.   They did sing a little operatically but so did Dusty Springfield.   When did Dusty Springfield   "I Just Don't Know What To Do With Myself" come out?  I think the true understanding of prog history hangs on this question. The element you are missing here is "Baroque Pop". Originally posted by wikipedia The genre was intended to be less "wild" than rock music at the time, and a less commercial, more serious and "mature" offshoot of the genre. Baroque pop may be distinguished from progressive rock, which also uses classical instrumentation, by its generally simpler song structures closer to standard pop song writing, and also by its more mainstream lyrical content as opposed to the generally conceptual lyrics associated with later progressive rock "I Just Don't Know What To Do With Myself", along with many other Bacharach songs, was a Torch Song.

Edited by brainstormer - April 03 2013 at 00:01

Originally posted by dr wu23 Originally posted by silverpot Originally posted by dr wu23 Originally posted by silverpot Originally posted by maani     Interestingly, Crimson seems to have "sprung full-grown from the head of Zeus," with little if any direct Beatle influence.)   Peace. Crimson was heavily influenced by The Moody Blues, who in their turn were influenced by The Beatles. Just saying.    I seriously doubt that Crimson was strongly influenced by the Moodies per se........indeed they were in awe of Crimson from everything I have read and KC's music was ahead of what the Moodies were doing in many ways. Having said that I think all of the more interesting bands then were being influencing by  each other and Fripp has mentioned the Beatles as an influence himself.  BTW there was an interesting piece by Fripp about KC in Prog magazine a few months back.   Well, KC originally enlisted the Moodies producer to help them out with In the Court...and Ian McDonald has explicitly said that they were inspired and influenced by them. It also becomes obvious, listening to the record. I was a big MB fan at the time and instantly loved In the Court when it came out, just because it sounded like the Moodies.       Yes..and they quickly fired him because Clarke had no idea what KC was all about....so says the man himself, Fripp, who as far as I know has never said he was influenced by the Moodies. Maybe Ian is just being ...nice. What say you...?

I don't know but is Fripp really known for niceties towards his peers? 

Anyway, I can only speak from my own experience, when I first heard Epitaph I thought, great, it sounds like the Moodies. Didn't know a thing about prog back then and never thought that Fripp would become canonized and considered infallable.

There seems to be two type of progressive rock.  Progressive elements in the rock song structure (think Beatles, Moody Blues -- it has classical thrown in but the classical doesn't effect the song structure).