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    Posted: April 17 2012 at 13:48
Originally posted by clarke2001

Originally posted by CPicard

You mean Croatian newspapers, right? I'm curious to see what they have written on this subject.



Here, here and here. (the last one predates aniversary a few months; it seems they discovered a few relevant documents here).

There was more but it's not on the Web I guess.


Note to myself: learn to speak/read Croatian.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Vibrationbaby Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 17 2012 at 13:41


They're even finding human remains now. Head on wall Saw rhis on Yahoo news.






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Post Options Post Options   Quote clarke2001 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 17 2012 at 04:06
Originally posted by CPicard

You mean Croatian newspapers, right? I'm curious to see what they have written on this subject.



Here, here and here. (the last one predates aniversary a few months; it seems they discovered a few relevant documents here).

There was more but it's not on the Web I guess.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote CPicard Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 17 2012 at 03:35
You mean Croatian newspapers, right? I'm curious to see what they have written on this subject.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote clarke2001 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 17 2012 at 02:57
Yup, the Titanic story is all over the media these days.

Apparently, that rescuing ship, Carphatia, was traveling on  a regular line New York - Rijeka (my hometown) and there was a 10 pages article in the newspapers' supplemental this weekend.
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The disaster of the Invicible Armada was much worse: we're talking about a dozen of sunk ships!
But no one ever made a movie about it... Cry
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Originally posted by RoyFairbank

Titanic is most celebrated because it is conceived of as a luxury ship containing very wealthy people (and therefore very interesting and romantic people), and therefore there is tragedy to such great people going down and their great pleasure float going down with them. That may be cynical, but someone pointed out about all the other ships lost, and that is an important observation. The other element is the cost of the ship, the claims of invincibility, the coverage in the papers, the maiden voyage....

As others have said. It is a deep tragedy however, no one disputes that. It would be interesting to know the effect on luxury liner traffic in the following years.
 
there wasn't just wealthy people on board (actually they were the minority, if you include the staff on board), but the lower depths of the ship was filled with "low-grade" immigrants, if memory serves.
 
Never saw the Cameron movie, though.... Does it show if the toathsome rich are buying out the space on the lifeboats away from the poor?? Because in terms of romanticism... Dead
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Post Options Post Options   Quote manofmystery Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 13 2012 at 19:01

Have always been interested in history and when I was young I got really into the history of Titanic.  Then the movie came out and destroyed it completely by spitting on history in favor of making a chick flick and tagging on the worst song ever recorded.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote RoyFairbank Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 13 2012 at 18:12
Titanic is most celebrated because it is conceived of as a luxury ship containing very wealthy people (and therefore very interesting and romantic people), and therefore there is tragedy to such great people going down and their great pleasure float going down with them. That may be cynical, but someone pointed out about all the other ships lost, and that is an important observation. The other element is the cost of the ship, the claims of invincibility, the coverage in the papers, the maiden voyage....

As others have said. It is a deep tragedy however, no one disputes that. It would be interesting to know the effect on luxury liner traffic in the following years.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote The T Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 13 2012 at 17:15
 I'll be the first to say that the whole Titanic things is a hoax created by the canadians to force us to give millions to one of their prodigal daughters....

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Post Options Post Options   Quote presdoug Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 13 2012 at 16:17
Originally posted by refugee

Originally posted by presdoug

For me, the Empress Of Ireland sinking is just as, or even more, chilling.
          It sank in 14 minutes, more people lost their lives than with the Titanic, and the tragedy happened near Montreal (I live nearby in Ottawa)


Empress of Ireland: 1012 dead
Titanic: 1514 dead.

Your statement is correct only if you don’t count the crew: A few more passengers died in the Empress of Ireland disaster than in the Titanic disaster.
thanks for pointing out the mistake-i stand corrected
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Angelo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 13 2012 at 13:53
Originally posted by JJLehto

Nope, because I can't say I've ever seen any size of "deal" made about it...except for a few year period when the original movie came out, but that was a while ago.

We can't be bothered if it's more than a week ago, the Titanic??? That was like what, 50 years ago? No one gives a sh*t.
I wonder, sincerely, how many people my age and younger even know if it was real.
After all, any movie/tv show/music from before 1994 is only known if it's on Family Guy...

Ah, but that's best saved for another rant.

edit: Unless there really is constant coverage of it, and I have just missed it all. In which case I'm very proud of my obscurity/hermit quialityApprove


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Post Options Post Options   Quote JJLehto Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 13 2012 at 12:28
Nope, because I can't say I've ever seen any size of "deal" made about it...except for a few year period when the original movie came out, but that was a while ago.

We can't be bothered if it's more than a week ago, the Titanic??? That was like what, 50 years ago? No one gives a sh*t.
I wonder, sincerely, how many people my age and younger even know if it was real.
After all, any movie/tv show/music from before 1994 is only known if it's on Family Guy...

Ah, but that's best saved for another rant.

edit: Unless there really is constant coverage of it, and I have just missed it all. In which case I'm very proud of my obscurity/hermit quialityApprove


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Post Options Post Options   Quote Jim Garten Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 13 2012 at 09:35
Originally posted by Vibrationbaby

I agree with you on Gordon Lightfoot's Wreck Of The Edmund Fitzgerald.


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Post Options Post Options   Quote Vibrationbaby Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 13 2012 at 09:31
Originally posted by Sean Trane

Originally posted by Adams Bolero

Originally posted by Sean Trane

much more intriguing than a dumb f**king ship built by drunken Irish
No need to stereotype the Irish as drunks just because your sick of the titanic coverage. I'm pretty sure the hard working Belfast lads working long hours at Harland and Wolff shipyard would not have been able to build the largest ship afloat at the time had they been drunk.
Yeah, you're right of course Smile(although I worked for years in heavy industry, and I can tell you that some welders worked best results with a few beers down their throats >> utterly inacceptable for a safety man like me, of course, but their welds were perfect on first try), but here I was taking more of a shot at those incredibly arrogant English engineers that thought the crap they drew on paper would be indestructible... Nothing's really changed since, though: most engineers today still think they sh*t gold nuggets
 
 
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I wish Ian had retitled the thread the final sinck(ing) of the titanicWink
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


You should have seen what I wanted to call it Big smile. I agree with you on Gordon Lightfoot's Wreck Of The Edmund Fitzgerald. It was to commemorate and honour the souls of the 29 crewmen who perished. Whenever I hear  that haunting song live shivers always go up my spine. So vivid. Lightfoot used a lot of artistic licence when witing the song because he toilied with the possibility of getting facts wrong especially some of the crew's last words. In the Captain's last transmission he reported that, "they were holding their own". Spooky. 





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Originally posted by presdoug

For me, the Empress Of Ireland sinking is just as, or even more, chilling.
          It sank in 14 minutes, more people lost their lives than with the Titanic, and the tragedy happened near Montreal (I live nearby in Ottawa)


Empress of Ireland: 1012 dead
Titanic: 1514 dead.

Your statement is correct only if you don’t count the crew: A few more passengers died in the Empress of Ireland disaster than in the Titanic disaster.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote CPicard Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 13 2012 at 08:30
Originally posted by Atavachron

I could take it or leave it, no worse than JFK or Nazis or 9/11 I suppose .. but the film ?  The Cameron film?  It's annoying as hell except for maybe the iceberg scene, A Night to Remember so much better



What? The Nazis killed Kennedy with an iceberg on the Titanic on the 11th of September??? And Celine Dion was part of this conspiracy???? Confused
Wow, I never suspected the truth was so unglaübisch! Shocked
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Jim Garten Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 13 2012 at 08:16
Careful, Slarti, the TV series may get popular () and therefore inelligible for any kudos here (ie, not in black & white, not moody enough, insufficient existential angst for our intelligensia to discuss ad nauseum & crime of crimes... entertaining! )


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Ah, you think you're sick of it now, ABC is doing a mini-series. Dead
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