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    Posted: April 12 2012 at 16:18
I thoroughly agree, Ian.  It's annoying me as well.

I realise it's the 100th anniversary but all this bittersweet stuff was going on before this with that terrible and inaccurate movie.  I much prefer the one with Kenneth More in it.

I also have issues about this current ship that's retracing the voyage.  It's not so much the voyage but the fact everyone is dressing up in period clothes.  I find it in poor taste.  I dislike James Cameron greatly.  He makes terrible movies.

Plus that Dion song... argh!

As others have said, what about other ships that have sunk/been sunk and lost hundreds of lives?  The Lusitania being one such example.

Then you have more modern examples like the Zeebrugge ferry, The Marchioness disaster and the recent one in Italy.


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Post Options Post Options   Quote sleeper Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 12 2012 at 16:47
Honestly, no, not as much as the Olympics of which I am thoroughly fed up with.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Dayvenkirq Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 12 2012 at 17:14
Originally posted by Gamemako

Originally posted by Vibrationbaby

I dunno is it me or have this Titanic thing gone overboard? 


Makes a good story. Man's hubris comes back to bite him.

Man's hubris. Is it somewhere in the movie or ... ?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Slaughternalia Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 12 2012 at 17:28
I guess I'd have to agree OP. A tragedy turned into a $200 Million chick flick. I thought it was a terrible film
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Originally posted by Equality 7-2521

Well at least the new version of the movie redid the night sky to make it astronomically correct for the date on which the Titanic sunk. So you don't have to view it as entirely a money-grubbing venture. 

Did they add color to some of the flares?

I enjoyed the film but damned if I'm going back to a theater to pay for it again just to see it in 3D with corrected stars. LOL


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Post Options Post Options   Quote zappaholic Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 12 2012 at 19:02
Originally posted by Gamemako

Originally posted by Vibrationbaby

I dunno is it me or have this Titanic thing gone overboard? 


Makes a good story. Man's hubris comes back to bite him.




Never saw the movie, and Celine can get knotted.

/Metal Church did a good song about it tho - "Rest In Pieces (April 15, 1912)", off Blessing In Disguise




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Originally posted by Sean Trane

much more intriguing than a dumb f**king ship built by drunken Irish
No need to stereotype the Irish as drunks just because your sick of the titanic coverage. I'm pretty sure the hard working Belfast lads working long hours at Harland and Wolff shipyard would not have been able to build the largest ship afloat at the time had they been drunk. 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Dayvenkirq Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 13 2012 at 01:36
Originally posted by Adams Bolero

Originally posted by Sean Trane

much more intriguing than a dumb f**king ship built by drunken Irish
No need to stereotype the Irish as drunks just because your sick of the titanic coverage. I'm pretty sure the hard working Belfast lads working long hours at Harland and Wolff shipyard would not have been able to build the largest ship afloat at the time had they been drunk. 

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Originally posted by Adams Bolero

Originally posted by Sean Trane

much more intriguing than a dumb f**king ship built by drunken Irish
No need to stereotype the Irish as drunks just because your sick of the titanic coverage. I'm pretty sure the hard working Belfast lads working long hours at Harland and Wolff shipyard would not have been able to build the largest ship afloat at the time had they been drunk.
Yeah, you're right of course Smile(although I worked for years in heavy industry, and I can tell you that some welders worked best results with a few beers down their throats >> utterly inacceptable for a safety man like me, of course, but their welds were perfect on first try), but here I was taking more of a shot at those incredibly arrogant English engineers that thought the crap they drew on paper would be indestructible... Nothing's really changed since, though: most engineers today still think they sh*t gold nuggets
 
 
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I wish Ian had retitled the thread the final sinck(ing) of the titanicWink
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


Edited by Sean Trane - April 13 2012 at 03:11
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Atavachron Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 13 2012 at 03:01
I could take it or leave it, no worse than JFK or Nazis or 9/11 I suppose .. but the film ?  The Cameron film?  It's annoying as hell except for maybe the iceberg scene, A Night to Remember so much better

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Post Options Post Options   Quote VanderGraafKommandöh Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 13 2012 at 03:49
Yep, A Night to Remember is indeed better.  It still has inaccuracies but then I have yet to see an historical film that doesn't.

Plus I quite like Kenneth More despite him playing the same role in most of his films. LOL
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Cameron just took the story, added love interest & special effects, so ended with effectively a disaster movie scripted by Merchant Ivory. He knew what he was doing & ended up with the most successful movie of all time (until he out-did this with his remake of Dances With Wolves, Avatar).

The guy's bloody clever & knows what the public like.

Oh, and for the record, I like the movie (Spoiler alert - the ship sinks at the end )

Oh, and finally, my great (great??) uncle on my mother's side worked in the engine room of the Titanic as a Leading Fireman; William Peter Mayo died in the sinking & his body was recovered by the Mackay-Bennett 2 weeks later & buried at sea just off Nova Scotia

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Ah, you think you're sick of it now, ABC is doing a mini-series. Dead
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Careful, Slarti, the TV series may get popular () and therefore inelligible for any kudos here (ie, not in black & white, not moody enough, insufficient existential angst for our intelligensia to discuss ad nauseum & crime of crimes... entertaining! )


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Originally posted by Atavachron

I could take it or leave it, no worse than JFK or Nazis or 9/11 I suppose .. but the film ?  The Cameron film?  It's annoying as hell except for maybe the iceberg scene, A Night to Remember so much better



What? The Nazis killed Kennedy with an iceberg on the Titanic on the 11th of September??? And Celine Dion was part of this conspiracy???? Confused
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Post Options Post Options   Quote refugee Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 13 2012 at 09:21
Originally posted by presdoug

For me, the Empress Of Ireland sinking is just as, or even more, chilling.
          It sank in 14 minutes, more people lost their lives than with the Titanic, and the tragedy happened near Montreal (I live nearby in Ottawa)


Empress of Ireland: 1012 dead
Titanic: 1514 dead.

Your statement is correct only if you don’t count the crew: A few more passengers died in the Empress of Ireland disaster than in the Titanic disaster.
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Originally posted by Sean Trane

Originally posted by Adams Bolero

Originally posted by Sean Trane

much more intriguing than a dumb f**king ship built by drunken Irish
No need to stereotype the Irish as drunks just because your sick of the titanic coverage. I'm pretty sure the hard working Belfast lads working long hours at Harland and Wolff shipyard would not have been able to build the largest ship afloat at the time had they been drunk.
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I wish Ian had retitled the thread the final sinck(ing) of the titanicWink
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


You should have seen what I wanted to call it Big smile. I agree with you on Gordon Lightfoot's Wreck Of The Edmund Fitzgerald. It was to commemorate and honour the souls of the 29 crewmen who perished. Whenever I hear  that haunting song live shivers always go up my spine. So vivid. Lightfoot used a lot of artistic licence when witing the song because he toilied with the possibility of getting facts wrong especially some of the crew's last words. In the Captain's last transmission he reported that, "they were holding their own". Spooky. 





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Post Options Post Options   Quote Jim Garten Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 13 2012 at 09:35
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I agree with you on Gordon Lightfoot's Wreck Of The Edmund Fitzgerald.


One of my favorite songs of all time


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Nope, because I can't say I've ever seen any size of "deal" made about it...except for a few year period when the original movie came out, but that was a while ago.

We can't be bothered if it's more than a week ago, the Titanic??? That was like what, 50 years ago? No one gives a sh*t.
I wonder, sincerely, how many people my age and younger even know if it was real.
After all, any movie/tv show/music from before 1994 is only known if it's on Family Guy...

Ah, but that's best saved for another rant.

edit: Unless there really is constant coverage of it, and I have just missed it all. In which case I'm very proud of my obscurity/hermit quialityApprove


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