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sagichim 
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Maybe they would get even more experimental if they would be on that label.
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lucas
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Posted: April 14 2012 at 16:50 |
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well, Rob Swift (hip-hop DJ) is on Ipecac, so...
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"Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood)
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RoyFairbank
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Posted: April 14 2012 at 22:03 |
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Rap.... and prog..... oh my!
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sagichim
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Posted: April 15 2012 at 01:12 |
Being a prog fan you should be more open minded to new fusions of styles. You just might discover something you like. |
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Posted: April 15 2012 at 04:38 |
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Some people here are snobs.What's the polar opposite of prog?
Pop. And how many times have they been mixed together? A million. And no one here finds that shocking at all. But hip-hop is somehow impossible to blend into prog. Nonsense. Anyway, thanks for the on-topic replies. I mentioned this in the OP but I'd like to ask again, what do people think of Adam Yauch as a bassist? I think he lays down some pretty tasty grooves on Check Your Head and Ill Communication. He even plays the upright bass sometimes. He's certainly above average imo but because he's also a rapper, people never even think of him as a bassist at all.
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sagichim
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Posted: April 15 2012 at 05:20 |
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He is ok, the best place to really hear what he's like is on their instrumental album 'The Mix Up'. But on a good/great bassist discussion he will never be mentioned. But he is good on creating that groove, but not as an improvisational player.
But let's clear some of the negative opinions about how groovy, rocky, and jazzy they are, and show you their other side, that you won't get from MTV. For all those interested of course. Is this a hammond organ over there? Oh yes it is! Don't pay attention to the first 13 seconds it's a promo. |
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Snow Dog
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Posted: April 15 2012 at 05:26 |
Yes you are one of them.
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Coldness doth get away with the badness.
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akamaisondufromage
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Posted: April 15 2012 at 05:39 |
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Oh, and pop and prog are not polar opposites by any stretch of the imagination.
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sagichim
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Posted: April 15 2012 at 05:45 |
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^ So what are they?
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Snow Dog
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Posted: April 15 2012 at 05:48 |
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^Cousins
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Coldness doth get away with the badness.
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sagichim
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Posted: April 15 2012 at 05:52 |
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^ Are cousins alike?
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akamaisondufromage
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Posted: April 15 2012 at 05:55 |
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^ Incestuous cousins ! |
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sagichim
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Posted: April 15 2012 at 05:58 |
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What are we talking about?
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akamaisondufromage
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Posted: April 15 2012 at 05:59 |
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Prop and Pog
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Snow Dog
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Posted: April 15 2012 at 06:01 |
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Pop is Prog's father. That's why he's called pop.
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sagichim
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Posted: April 15 2012 at 06:03 |
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And mop is the mother.
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Snow Dog
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Posted: April 15 2012 at 06:05 |
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^No that's mummy.
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Posted: April 15 2012 at 06:15 |
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I do believe prog and pop are opposites.
Pop: Appealing to an already extant idea of coolness/happiness in order to create something which will be immediately attractive to a consumer. It needs to be realtively simple in order to be successfully consumed through casual methods such as car radios and TV clips. Does not have to be totally iterative, but if it becomes too different from what is currently the norm, it is unlikely to be considered pop and be played in pop venues. Prog: Creating something with no regard whatsoever for what the marketplace is interested in. Typically either aims for complexity and grandeur or alienation through the deliberate avoidance of norms. Both of these disqualify it from casual venues. There you go, philosophical opposites. Snow Dog: I'm not a snob, I'm right. You guys who judge the entirety of hip-hop based on 8 seconds of a Fifty Cent song you hear from a passing humvee don't have a leg to stand on. You're like young kids who say they hate classical music when they've never heard any ;)
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Snow Dog
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Posted: April 15 2012 at 06:19 |
You Guys? Who are they? Did you not read my post defending the Beastie Boys here? Did I not say that I liked De la Soul? I have mentioned also that I like Eminem! Don't tar as all with your generilisations.
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Posted: April 15 2012 at 06:22 |
Couldn't have put it better.
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