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    Posted: April 14 2012 at 10:55
Maybe they would get even more experimental if they would be on that label.
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well, Rob Swift (hip-hop DJ) is on Ipecac, so...
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Rap.... and prog..... oh my!



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Originally posted by RoyFairbank

Rap.... and prog..... oh my!



Being a prog fan you should be more open minded to new fusions of styles. You just might discover something you like.
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Some people here are snobs.
What's the polar opposite of prog?
 
Pop.
 
And how many times have they been mixed together?

A million. And no one here finds that shocking at all. But hip-hop is somehow impossible to blend into prog. Nonsense.
 
 
 
Anyway, thanks for the on-topic replies. I mentioned this in the OP but I'd like to ask again, what do people think of Adam Yauch as a bassist? I think he lays down some pretty tasty grooves on Check Your Head and Ill Communication. He even plays the upright bass sometimes. He's certainly above average imo but because he's also a rapper, people never even think of him as a bassist at all.


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He is ok, the best place to really hear what he's like is on their instrumental album 'The Mix Up'. But on a good/great bassist discussion he will never be mentioned. But he is good on creating that groove, but not as an improvisational player.

But let's clear some of the negative opinions about how groovy, rocky, and jazzy they are, and show you their other side, that you won't get from MTV. For all those interested of course.

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Originally posted by Textbook

Some people here are snobs.


Yes you are one of them.
Coldness doth get away with the badness.
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Oh, and pop and prog are not polar opposites by any stretch of the imagination.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Sagichim Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 15 2012 at 05:45
^ So what are they?
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^Cousins
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^ Are cousins alike?
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^ Incestuous cousins ! Shocked

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Sagichim Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 15 2012 at 05:58
What are we talking about?
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Prop and Pog
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Snow Dog Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 15 2012 at 06:01
Pop is Prog's father. That's why he's called pop.
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And mop is the mother.
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^No that's mummy.
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I do believe prog and pop are opposites.
 
Pop: Appealing to an already extant idea of coolness/happiness in order to create something which will be immediately attractive to a consumer. It needs to be realtively simple in order to be successfully consumed through casual methods such as car radios and TV clips. Does not have to be totally iterative, but if it becomes too different from what is currently the norm, it is unlikely to be considered pop and be played in pop venues.
 
Prog: Creating something with no regard whatsoever for what the marketplace is interested in. Typically either aims for complexity and grandeur or alienation through the deliberate avoidance of norms. Both of these disqualify it from casual venues.
 
There you go, philosophical opposites.
 
Snow Dog: I'm not a snob, I'm right. You guys who judge the entirety of hip-hop based on 8 seconds of a Fifty Cent song you hear from a passing humvee don't have a leg to stand on. You're like young kids who say they hate classical music when they've never heard any ;)
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Originally posted by Textbook

 
 
Snow Dog: I'm not a snob, I'm right. You guys who judge the entirety of hip-hop based on 8 seconds of a Fifty Cent song you hear from a passing humvee don't have a leg to stand on. You're like young kids who say they hate classical music when they've never heard any ;)

You Guys? Who are they? Did you not read my post defending the Beastie Boys here? Did I not say that I liked De la Soul? I have mentioned also that I like Eminem! Don't tar as all with your generilisations.
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Originally posted by Snow Dog

Pop is Prog's father. That's why he's called pop.
 
Couldn't have put it better.LOL
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