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    Posted: April 19 2012 at 07:30
Iím translating a childrenís book from Danish to Norwegian. Itís about a car-crazed duck called Axel, The author rhymes Skoda with Toyota, which I believe is perfect in Danish but unfortunately less good in Norwegian, where the distiction between d and t is much more audible. Do you know any car brand or model that rhymes with either Skoda or Toyota?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Snow Dog Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 19 2012 at 07:41
How about Skoda, off roader?

No hang on that onkly works in English...sorry.
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How does Skoda/ Rover sound in Norwegian?
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Skoda/Toyota sounds better, but thanks anyway.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote refugee Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 19 2012 at 07:56
Iím sorry that I bothered you, now I found this one:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coda_%28electric_car%29

The rhyme works perfectly in Norwegian!
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If you're changing a car brand - you might as well change both rhymes. I'm not sure how many children are familiar with Coda. How bout Peugeot and Renault?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote refugee Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 19 2012 at 09:03
The author has already used:

Alfa Romeo/Ford Mondeo
Bugatti/Maserati (not a perfect rhyme, but I kept it)
Lamborghini/Morris Mini

and

Peugeot/Renault

She has also used more uncommon names like Callaway Coupť (I googled it and found that Callaway is an engine design company who is notable for their modification of Chevrolet cars, especially Corvette), so I donít think Coda is too odd in the setting. But thanks! Beer
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Originally posted by clarke2001 clarke2001 wrote:

If you're changing a car brand - you might as well change both rhymes. I'm not sure how many children are familiar with Coda. How bout Peugeot and Renault?


Thatís actually a very good idea Ė if I (or someone else) could find another rhyme thatís not been used in the book already. Iíll keep it open for now, and I appreciate any suggestions.
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Skoda --> Pagani Zonda,

Toyota --> AC Cobra

maybe

i have no idea, but the rules for rhyming phoneticly is quite strickt Stern Smile
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What if I used Opel Kadett/Chevrolet Corvette? Maybe thatís better than the obscure Coda Ö

Edited by refugee - April 19 2012 at 10:13
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Originally posted by aginor aginor wrote:

Skoda --> Pagani Zonda,

Toyota --> AC Cobra

maybe

i have no idea, but the rules for rhyming phoneticly is quite strickt Stern Smile

They don'y rhyme at all in English
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Mercedes Benz / Kia Carens?
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Skoda / Hyundai?

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Originally posted by someone_else someone_else wrote:

Mercedes Benz / Kia Carens?


Very good suggestion! I have to think about it Ė if I choose it, I would have to do another replacement, becase the cars mentioned in this passage are:

Chrysler, Ferrari, Callaway Coupť, Audi, Mercedes Benz, Alfa Romeo, Fiat, Ford Mondeo, Bentley, Bugatti, Jeep, Maserati, Passat, Lamborghini, Jaguar, Morris Mini, Porsche, Peugeot, Rolls Royce and Renault.

Then comes this troublesome line which includes:

Aston Martin, Skoda, Seat and Toyota.

After that itís Saab, Suzuki, Chevrolet and Mazda.

So If I choose the Mercedes, Iíll have to replace the first one with another brand/model, and if I choose the Corvette, I have to find another car to replace the second Chevrolet.
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Originally posted by CPicard CPicard wrote:

Skoda / Hyundai?


You must pronounce them totally diferently in France that's all I can say.
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Iíve made up my mind. Itís Mercedes Benz/Kia Carens. I replaced the first Mercedes with Aston Martin (it was easy to make it fit with the rythm, and I couldnít use it later anyway). So thanks a lot to all of you, and special thanks to Moris (clarke2001) for making me think "outside the box" and someone_else for finding the solution!
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Originally posted by aginor aginor wrote:

Skoda --> Pagani Zonda,

Toyota --> AC Cobra

maybe

i have no idea, but the rules for rhyming phoneticly is quite strickt Stern Smile
 
The Pagani Zonda would rhyme better with Honda.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote refugee Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 19 2012 at 12:29
Originally posted by Gerinski Gerinski wrote:

Originally posted by aginor aginor wrote:

Skoda --> Pagani Zonda,

Toyota --> AC Cobra

maybe

i have no idea, but the rules for rhyming phoneticly is quite strickt Stern Smile
 
The Pagani Zonda would rhyme better with Honda.


Zonda and Honda is indeed a perfect rhyme, and it would have worked well. But now Iíve sent my translation to the editor, and Iím happy with the Benz/Carens rhyme.

Btw, I did this translation for the Swedish LšsrŲrelsen whose goal is to make children read more and develop a good language. The book will be printed in several hundred thousand copies and given to all the children who choose a Bok Happy Meal menue at a McDonaldsís restaurant in Norway. So itís one half idealism, one half big business. Last year I translated some wonderful nonsense verses by the Swedish poet Lennart Hellsing, so they really choose high quality for the children.
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