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OT Räihälä
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Posted: May 02 2012 at 11:09 |
prog61 wrote:
Do you want to express your personal top 5 list of
musicians for each instrument? |
No. It doesn't make sense to compare musicians who don't play the same music. And how do you measure? By playing speed, sound volume or hair style?
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: May 02 2012 at 11:40 |
^ Mayhaps all of the above. Do as best as you can in choosing. You can say that you prefer this genre over that genre. You can compare styles and say: "Well, I like this style over that style" ... the bottom line is: do as best as you can. BTW: Hair style has nothing to do with music.
Edited by Dayvenkirq - May 02 2012 at 11:43
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: May 02 2012 at 13:10 |
I must be bored.
Vocals Peter Hammill Ella Fitzgerald Honus Honus Roger Wootton Rody Walker
Keys Thelonious Monk Hugh Banton Tony Banks Scott Ross Kevin Moore
Drums Neil Peart Tatsuya Yoshida Chris Cutler Blake Richardson Joey Baron
Bass Charles Mingus Arif Mirabdolbaghi Trevor Dunn Percy Jones Toby Driver
Guitars James Hetfield Alex Lifeson Derek Bailey Criss Olivia Daniel Gildeonlow
Other John Zorn (Sax) Yo-Yo Ma (Cello) Carla Kihlstedt (Violin) Ikue Mori (Electronics) Ono Ryoko (Flute)
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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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OT Räihälä
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Posted: May 02 2012 at 13:27 |
Ok then. I'm too lazy to name five, I'll give you one of each instead. Singers Easy, of course Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau.
Keyboard players This is tough. Hmm... Have to say Sviatoslav Richter.
Drummers I count all kinds of drums. Well, Sami Koskela is the best I know.
Guitarists I've always liked Timo Korhonen's playing.
Bassists I've heard Stefano Scodanibbio only once, but he was breath-taking.
Other instruments
Goodness me, why are all "other instruments" bundled together? I could name umpteen brilliant clarinettists, flautists, bassoonists, cornists, trumpetists, cellists, violinists, violists, oboists, trombonists, tubists, saxophonists, well you name 'em, even harpists and accordionists... It's impossible to list only twenty, never mind five or one.
Edited by OT Räihälä - May 02 2012 at 13:28
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Master of Time
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Posted: May 02 2012 at 20:31 |
Dayvenkirq wrote:
Master of Time wrote:
Guitarists 1. Steve Howe 2. Bert Jansch 3. Steve Hackett 4. Anthony Phillips 5. John Mclaughlin 6. John Renbourn (I know it's six, but he deserves it.) |
Out of curiosity: Jansch and Renbourn? Phillips above McLaughlin? How did you come to that? |
Bert Jansch and John Renbourn are folk guitar players who are members of the group The Pentangle listed here under prog folk. Jacqui McShee and Danny Thompson who I also listed are from The Pentangle. Bert Jansch's solo material is also under prog folk including the two collaborations with John Renbourn they did outside of the Pentangle. Bert Jansch is in my opinion one of the greatest if not the greatest acoustic guitar player ever. I have a bit of a bias towards Anthony Phillips because he was the first Prog artist I heard outside of Yes that I really loved and he caused me to get into prog more thoroughly. I heard Master of Time on Last.FM and then checked out The Geese and the Ghost and was mesmerized. I then listened to Steve Hackett's Out of the Tunnel's Mouth and Beyond the Shrouded Horizon, and then finally Genesis's Selling England By the Pound. Also I haven't listened to much Mahavishnu Orchestra and mainly know McLaughlin's work through Shakti. I'm a huge fan of classical indian music and got into that before ever getting into prog.
Edited by Master of Time - May 02 2012 at 21:00
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presdoug
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Posted: May 02 2012 at 20:51 |
OT Räihälä wrote:
Ok then. I'm too lazy to name five, I'll give you one of each instead. Singers Easy, of course Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau.
Keyboard players This is tough. Hmm... Have to say Sviatoslav Richter.
Drummers I count all kinds of drums. Well, Sami Koskela is the best I know.
Guitarists I've always liked Timo Korhonen's playing.
Bassists I've heard Stefano Scodanibbio only once, but he was breath-taking.
Other instruments
Goodness me, why are all "other instruments" bundled together? I could name umpteen brilliant clarinettists, flautists, bassoonists, cornists, trumpetists, cellists, violinists, violists, oboists, trombonists, tubists, saxophonists, well you name 'em, even harpists and accordionists... It's impossible to list only twenty, never mind five or one.
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Yeah, i quite like Sviatoslav Richter. My favorite rock keys player is Jurgen Fritz (or "classical-rock" keys player, to be more exact!)
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: May 02 2012 at 20:53 |
Master of Time wrote:
Dayvenkirq wrote:
Master of Time wrote:
Guitarists 1. Steve Howe 2. Bert Jansch 3. Steve Hackett 4. Anthony Phillips 5. John Mclaughlin 6. John Renbourn (I know it's six, but he deserves it.) |
Out of curiosity: Jansch and Renbourn? Phillips above McLaughlin? How did you come to that? |
Bert Jansch and John Renbourn are folk guitar players who are members of the group The Pentangle listed here under prog folk. Jacqui McShee and Danny Thompson who I also listed are from The Pentangle. Bert Jansch's solo material is also under prog folk including the two collaborations with John Renbourn they did outside of the Pentangle. Bert Jansch is in my opinion one of the greatest if not the greatest acoustic guitar player ever. I have a bit of a bias towards Anthony Phillips because he was the first Prog artist I heard outside of Yes that I really loved and he caused me to get into prog more thoroughly. I heard Master of Time on Last.FM and then checked out The Geese and the Ghost and was mesmerized. I then listened to Steve Hackett's Out of the Tunnel's Mouth and Beyond the Shrouded Horizon, and then finally Genesis's Selling England By the Pound. Also I haven't listened to much Mahavishnu Orchestra and mainly know McLaughlin's work through Shakti. I'm a huge fan of classical indian music and got into that before ever getting into prog. |
^ Oh! Very nice.
I mean, how did you come up with Jansch above Hackett? And since Renbourn is up there, what would you recommend by him or at least tell me what acumen he possessed to get so close to McLaughlin?
Edited by Dayvenkirq - May 02 2012 at 20:54
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Master of Time
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Posted: May 02 2012 at 21:24 |
Dayvenkirq wrote:
Master of Time wrote:
Dayvenkirq wrote:
Master of Time wrote:
Guitarists 1. Steve Howe 2. Bert Jansch 3. Steve Hackett 4. Anthony Phillips 5. John Mclaughlin 6. John Renbourn (I know it's six, but he deserves it.) |
Out of curiosity: Jansch and Renbourn? Phillips above McLaughlin? How did you come to that? |
Bert Jansch and John Renbourn are folk guitar players who are members of the group The Pentangle listed here under prog folk. Jacqui McShee and Danny Thompson who I also listed are from The Pentangle. Bert Jansch's solo material is also under prog folk including the two collaborations with John Renbourn they did outside of the Pentangle. Bert Jansch is in my opinion one of the greatest if not the greatest acoustic guitar player ever. I have a bit of a bias towards Anthony Phillips because he was the first Prog artist I heard outside of Yes that I really loved and he caused me to get into prog more thoroughly. I heard Master of Time on Last.FM and then checked out The Geese and the Ghost and was mesmerized. I then listened to Steve Hackett's Out of the Tunnel's Mouth and Beyond the Shrouded Horizon, and then finally Genesis's Selling England By the Pound. Also I haven't listened to much Mahavishnu Orchestra and mainly know McLaughlin's work through Shakti. I'm a huge fan of classical indian music and got into that before ever getting into prog. |
^ Oh! Very nice.
I mean, how did you come up with Jansch above Hackett? And since Renbourn is up there, what would you recommend by him or at least tell me what acumen he possessed to get so close to McLaughlin?
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Though sometime's Jansch's work is subtle, his innovative and influential style of fusing baroque music with folk music is extremely unique and very hard to replicate. Though the concept of fusing baroque folk has become a bit more common now he was one of the first to do it. When it comes to other guitar players (especially acoustic) you can here people on youtube doing great renditions of their songs but no one can seem to be able to replicate all of the little things Bert could do that nobody else could. You can here people on their own records that sound a lot like Steve Hackett and even McLaughlin at times but no one in my opinion can quite get Bert. Renbourn's middle eastern influencs and occasional use of the sitar really appeal to me personally. You can here some of his sitar work on the Pentangle song "House Carpenter" along with some of Bert's banjo. John Renbourn I think did some of his best work in the Pentangle and with Bert but with his also great solo material I suggest trying his most influential "Sir John Alot", which is his interpretations on medieval songs. Also try "The Hermit", "Ship of Fools", and his stuff with The John Renbourn Group , "The Enchanted Garden" and "A Maid in Bedlam" which more clearly show his middle eastern influences.
Edited by Master of Time - May 02 2012 at 21:31
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: May 02 2012 at 21:34 |
There are a lot of flute players who deserve to be mentioned
- Thijs Van Leer (Focus)
- Ian Anderson (Jethro Tull)
- Anna Homgren (Anglagärd)
- Peter Gabriel (Genesis)
- John Hackett (Steve Hackett)
- Ian McDonald (King Crimson - Steve Hackett)
- Andrew Latimer (Camel)
- Mel Collins (Played with everybody)
And even more violin players:
- Jean Luc Ponty (Mahavishnu - Solo)
- David Ragsdale (Kansas)
- Mauro Pagani (PFM)
- Robby Steinhardt (Kansas)
- Eddie Jobson (Jethro Tull, UK, etc)
- Sigfried Carver (Pavlov's Dog)
- Lucio Fabri (PFM)
- Alessandro Bonetti (Deus ex Machina)
- Jerry Goodman (Mahavishnu Orchestra)
- David Cross (King Crimson)
Iván
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: May 02 2012 at 21:41 |
Master of Time wrote:
Though sometime's Jansch's work is subtle, his innovative and influential style of fusing baroque music with folk music is extremely unique and very hard to replicate. Though the concept of fusing baroque folk has become a bit more common now he was one of the first to do it. When it comes to other guitar players (especially acoustic) you can here people on youtube doing great renditions of their songs but no one can seem to be able to replicate all of the little things Bert could do that nobody else could. You can here people on their own records that sound a lot like Steve Hackett and even McLaughlin at times but no one in my opinion can quite get Bert. Renbourn's middle eastern influencs and occasional use of the sitar really appeal to me personally. You can here some of his sitar work on the Pentangle song "House Carpenter" along with some of Bert's banjo. John Renbourn I think did some of his best work in the Pentangle and with Bert but with his also great solo material I suggest trying his most influential "Sir John Alot", which is his interpretations on medieval songs. Also try "The Hermit", "Ship of Fools", and his stuff with The John Renbourn Group , "The Enchanted Garden" and "A Maid in Bedlam" which more clearly show his middle eastern influences.
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^ Wow. Awesome. Thanks. Will check those works out.
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Old King Cole
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Posted: April 01 2015 at 19:22 |
I am only counting prog, jazz fusion, jazz rock etc. Singers 1. Peter Gabriel 2. Jon Anderson 3. Greg Lake 4. John Wetton 5. Phil Collins
Bass Players 1. Chris Squire/Jaco Pastorius(tie) 2. Tony Levin 3. Mike Rutherford 4. John Wetton 5. Stanley Clarke
Keyboards Technicality 1. Rick Wakeman 2. Keith Emerson 3. Jordan Rudess(Haven't listened much to Dream Theater but Jordan Rudess is an amazing keyboard player) 4. Joe Zawinul 5. Tony Banks Musicality and compositions 1. Tony Banks 2. Donald Fagen 3. Rick Wakeman 4. Joe Zawinul 5. Keith Emerson Drummers 1. Bill Bruford 2. Phil Collins 3. Carl Palmer 4. Alan White 5. Steve Gadd Guitar 1. Steve Howe 2. Steve Hackett 3. Robert Fripp 4. Al Di Meola 5. Jan Akkerman
Edited by Old King Cole - April 10 2015 at 14:23
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richardh
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Posted: April 02 2015 at 01:55 |
Old King Cole wrote:
I am only counting prog, jazz fusion, jazz rock etc.
Keyboards Technicality 1. Rick Wakeman 2. Keith Emerson 3. Jordan Rudess(I don't like Dream Theater but Jordan Rudess is an amazing keyboard player) 4. Joe Zawinul 5. Tony Banks Musicality and compositions 1. Tony Banks 2. Donald Fagen 3. Rick Wakeman 4. Joe Zawinul 5. Keith Emerson
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a common thing I notice is that Keith Emerson and Tony Banks are often put this way round when looking at technicality and musicality I believe it should be the other way round. Emerson is a far more interesting composer than Banks while even Emerson admitted that Banks was the best he ever saw. Moraz probably beats the lot of them though!
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justin4950834-2
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Posted: April 02 2015 at 12:53 |
Singers 1.Peter Hammill 2.Jon Anderson 3.Peter Gabriel 4.Eric Bloom 5.Jeff Lyne
Keyboardists 1.Rick Wakeman 2.Keith Emerson 3.Dave Stewart 4.Richard Wright 5.Tim Blake
Drummers 1.Bill Bruford 2.Phil Collins (early years) 3.Neil Peart 4.Carl Palmer 5.B.J Wilson
Guitarists 1.Steve Howe 2.Robert Fripp 3.Steve Hackett 4.Steve Hillage 5.Frank Zappa
Bassists 1.Chris Squire 2.Tony Levin 3.Mike Rutherford 4.Roger Waters 5.Greg Lake
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sublime220
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Posted: April 02 2015 at 18:27 |
^Collin's Drumming was always good. It was the stuff they were producing that was not.
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There is no dark side in the moon, really... Matter of fact, it's all dark...
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Barbu
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Posted: April 02 2015 at 19:12 |
1 musician for each instrument : Mike Oldfield
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richardh
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Posted: April 03 2015 at 05:53 |
sublime220 wrote:
^Collin's Drumming was always good. It was the stuff they were producing that was not. |
Agreed on the first point , although I would go further and say Collins drumming got better and Duke is his best.
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nautilusprog
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Posted: April 03 2015 at 06:05 |
- Peter Gabriel
- John Anderson
- Daniel Gildenlow
- Steve Hogarth
- Joseph Williams
Keyboard players
- Tony Banks
- Keith Emerson
- Eddie Jobson
- Lyle Mays
- Vittorio Nocenzi
Drummers
- Terry Bozzio
- Billy Cobham
- Simon Phillips
- Marco Minneman
- Neil peart
Guitarists
- John Petrucci
- Steve Hackett
- Allan Holdsworth
- Steve Lukather
- Pat Metheny
Bassists
- Jaco Pastorius
- Geddy Lee
- Michael Manring
- John Entwistle
- Mark King
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HackettFan
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Posted: April 03 2015 at 09:48 |
Vocalists
Peter Gabriel Napoleon Murphy Brock John Wetton Ian Anderson Greg Lake
Guitar
Steve Hackett Frank Zappa Robert Fripp Adrian Belew Tony Duhig
Keyboard
Tony Banks Nick Magnus George Duke Tim Blake Keith Emerson
Drums
Phill Collins Bill Bruford Allan Price Gary O'Toole Mike Giles
Percussion
John Field Ruth Underwood Jamie Muir Pierre Moerlen
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