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geneyesontle
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Topic: Best Pink Floyd conceptPosted: April 22 2012 at 17:49 |
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The concept of Ummagumma is that in one disc each member of the band writes one song divided into many parts or two songs, and in the other disc they play live extended versions of their old songs.
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Posted: April 22 2012 at 20:59 |
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Posted: April 22 2012 at 21:35 |
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I find it very hard to choose between Dark Side, Animals, and The Wall. I guess I have to go with The Wall, since it's the clearest and better designed concept. However, I still don't understand what Ummagumma is doing here... the thing about each member writing one song in different parts was more an idea to get the album going than a concept (and actually, each one was suposed to be the sole performer of each track, though I'm not totally sure that was the case in all songs, specially Narrow Way 3, and the flutes from Nicks part were definitley not played by him). The Final Cut should have been added to this poll, though. And it would have been interesting to see Amused to Death here too, even if it isn't a Pink Floyd album (perhaps it could have been a poll about Roger's concepts...).
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Dellinger
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Posted: April 22 2012 at 21:40 |
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No, The Final Cut wasn't considered a continuation of The Wall... the story is quiet different... though it may be a spiritual continuation. And as a matter of fact, it's suposed to include songs that were originally rejected by the band for The Wall, thus some of the songs may actually fit within The Wall story. |
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Posted: April 22 2012 at 22:07 |
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Never really been a fan of the concept of The Wall, but then I might be a little bit bias because I never liked the film of The Wall, even though I'm a fan of the film director. I enjoy the music of The Wall more than its concept. I've never enjoyed the last section of The Wall though. Reminds me too much of Gilbert and Sullivan (and mostly fairly boring).
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Posted: April 23 2012 at 02:14 |
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Wish You Were Here: the "machine" which foreshadows the wall two albums later is a great concept. The whole feeling of success, but loss of control and growing estrangement is absolutely amazing. It's like a trunk with different branches. It deals with the success in the pop industry and the fight against controlling record companies, but also with the loss of Syd Barrett in the race to success. It can be put on society as a whole, on a personal psychological level, interhuman relationships, treason, loneliness... All the Hipgnosis imagery makes the concept broader too.
Dark Side Of The Moon is also quite good, but the concept is much more open for interpretation , so a bit of thin ice to tell what the concept is. I'd say: the feeling that superficially your whole life is in order, but you have the feeling that below the surface, there's... well, again alienation, I'd say. Defragmentisation, maybe. I think WYWH uses the concept of Dark Side Of The Moon but makes it more powerful, adding one wonderful image: the machine. The Wall is much more direct and also very powerful, and not very open to different interpretations: the message is clear. Which is good, and they had a strong image, also to bring on stage with the show. But: Wish You Were Here has the best balance, I think (as a concept). It is a clear concept, but open enough for different interpretations on the other hand. Edited by Moogtron III - April 23 2012 at 02:28 |
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Posted: April 23 2012 at 15:41 |
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Has to be either Animals or The Wall (which updates DSOTM's concept). I'll go with The Wall.
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Posted: April 25 2012 at 05:36 |
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Posted: April 25 2012 at 05:37 |
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Posted: April 25 2012 at 05:38 |
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![]() Someone needs to learn what a concept album is.
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The concept of the album is "writing a bunch of songs that are not connected to each other musically, even though they are called part I, part II, part III and part IV". The second part have the same concept only live. |
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Posted: April 25 2012 at 19:44 |
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Dark Side's. Simple and Wonderfuk.
I find it very hard to consider that a concept album ![]() "The Final Cut" it's one IMO. |
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Hi,
I'm gonna choose "Ummaguma" ... because ... the word "concept" is grossly over rated and I don't think that they wrote a total story until they got to "The Wall" and even then ... that story makes Shakespeare stories look really good! And the concepts? Even worse!
But we remember "Comfortably Numb" as well as we do "To Be or Not To Be" ... so there you have it!
What a concept! Like King Lear had a better concept than The Wall or vice versa ... and it's a good idea and nice, but not necessary and even Roger has stated that. You can find those comments when he is talking about "Ca Ira" ... which is a concept, written opera style ... that I bet I can count the number of people in this board that listened to it in its intirety in one hand! So much for a "concept" ... but a nebulous, loose and unclear "concept" gets accepted and liked?
Scary thought ... let me go see that cartoon about the meat grinder again ... and see if I missed something about that concept in life!
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Posted: April 26 2012 at 14:34 |
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Actually "Animals" would make sense as a concept ... IF it had the original cover and pictures!
Because there was one thing in there that really said it all ... and it was Qunitessential Hipgnosis and Pink Floyd ... and it was called "Art Ducko". Look for it!
If you don't get it ... there went the concept ... no one noticed it anyway ... and she was ... ! Edited by moshkito - April 26 2012 at 14:39 |
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Posted: April 26 2012 at 18:33 |
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The wall is definitely the most concrete, but I find Dark Side to be the most rich. I love hearing Waters trying to wrap so many ideas into such a small space.
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